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Sweet Daddy Hate 10-15-2018 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13821603)
Actually, he's delegated TOO MUCH authority when it comes to the defense. He's not even watching the game when the defense is on the field, he's on the bench with Mahomes, looking at a Surface Pro.

There are all sorts of different setups that have been used in this league in regards to coaching personnel and where they are at any given time during the course of a game. And there's no right way to do it if you're doing it successfully.
Andy is the head coach AND O-coord in this setup regardless of what the Chiefs payroll may say. It is what it is. Is he supposed to spend his game time overseeing the defense and possibly dictating to the D-Coord what types of plays should be run? I would hope not. That's not what Andy is good at.
He does however have a responsibility to make sure that the D-coord is doing his job well and producing positive results. He is responsible for making sure that the scouts and GM know what kind of players are needed for all three phases of the game. And if his defense is sucking out loud, it's his responsibility to find out why and to make the steps necessary to correct it. And it is definitely in Reid's best interest to get this current situation corrected if he hopes to do more than be a regular season warrior.

Mecca 10-15-2018 10:45 PM

Basically Andy needs to hire a defensive coach that can run a defense by himself...so essentially a coordinator with legit NFL head coaching experience and preferably one that is young enough to still have fire and hunger.

In all honesty there aren't really that many guys out there that fit that bill.

RunKC 10-15-2018 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13821647)
Basically Andy needs to hire a defensive coach that can run a defense by himself...so essentially a coordinator with legit NFL head coaching experience and preferably one that is young enough to still have fire and hunger.

In all honesty there aren't really that many guys out there that fit that bill.

Sounds like Todd Bowles :hmmm:

Hammock Parties 10-16-2018 01:21 AM

I've changed my mind. Sutton has to go.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let&#39;s check in on how each defensive mind thinks:<br><br>NE not only follows Kelce with man coverage, shifts the pass rusher to chip him, but then inside-outside brackets him. Literally left zero chance that the Chiefs were going to win with Kelce in the RZ (or most of the game) <a href="https://t.co/Upxrbk8QS8">pic.twitter.com/Upxrbk8QS8</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@ChiefinCarolina) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefinCarolina/status/1051851308922232834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC runs straight forward C1 man with no attempt at disguising. Not only that, they put the newest addition, Josh Shaw, in man coverage on Gronk on an island while Lucas plays man on a RB and Parker sits CF. Brady IDs this immediately, no adjustment just &quot;go press Gronk kid&quot;. <a href="https://t.co/oVAnivjhR3">pic.twitter.com/oVAnivjhR3</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@ChiefinCarolina) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefinCarolina/status/1051852269723869190?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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New World Order 10-16-2018 01:23 AM

God I hate Sutton

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-16-2018 01:28 AM

That is evidence of a man with no passion for his craft. I say that because the only other explanation for such nonsense would be a major lack of intelligence.

Sassy Squatch 10-16-2018 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13821702)
I've changed my mind. Sutton has to go.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let&#39;s check in on how each defensive mind thinks:<br><br>NE not only follows Kelce with man coverage, shifts the pass rusher to chip him, but then inside-outside brackets him. Literally left zero chance that the Chiefs were going to win with Kelce in the RZ (or most of the game) <a href="https://t.co/Upxrbk8QS8">pic.twitter.com/Upxrbk8QS8</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@ChiefinCarolina) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefinCarolina/status/1051851308922232834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC runs straight forward C1 man with no attempt at disguising. Not only that, they put the newest addition, Josh Shaw, in man coverage on Gronk on an island while Lucas plays man on a RB and Parker sits CF. Brady IDs this immediately, no adjustment just &quot;go press Gronk kid&quot;. <a href="https://t.co/oVAnivjhR3">pic.twitter.com/oVAnivjhR3</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@ChiefinCarolina) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefinCarolina/status/1051852269723869190?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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GloryDayz 10-16-2018 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13821703)
God I hate Sutton

Rep.

GloryDayz 10-16-2018 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13821741)

Sad but true, we might need to fly a banner...

Coochie liquor 10-16-2018 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13821768)
Sad but true, we might need to fly a banner...

Yeah we wouldn’t look like pompous assholes if we flew a banner at 5-1. With our lone loss to the AFC champs by 3 points at their house!

farmerchief 10-16-2018 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Claysexual (Post 13821707)
That is evidence of a man with no passion for his craft. I say that because the only other explanation for such nonsense would be a major lack of intelligence.

Its quite evident, the game has passed him by!

GloryDayz 10-16-2018 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 13821772)
Yeah we wouldn’t look like pompous assholes if we flew a banner at 5-1. With our lone loss to the AFC champs by 3 points at their house!

You wouldn't be required to participate, so calm down.

Enjoy Sutton and our defense pal, you've earned it.

Rukdafaidas 10-16-2018 06:50 AM

Is Daniel Sorenson able to return this week?

Red Dawg 10-16-2018 06:53 AM

Andy's downfall is loyalty. Sutton should have been canned last year for sure. Nobody wanted him back. His plans are just plain stupid and don't make sense.

dirk digler 10-16-2018 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rukdafaidas (Post 13821791)
Is Daniel Sorenson able to return this week?


No he still has 2 weeks left


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