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chiefzilla1501 07-11-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10742079)
Who did Jordan have that was a top player other than Pippen?

Jordan needed a supporting cast too. The reason I always think MJ will be untouchable is that in the last 5 minutes of the game, it didn't matter who was on the court with MJ. There are instances here and there of him passing the ball. But he was basically going to own the ball, everyone knew he was wanting to shoot it every single time, and he was still unstoppable.

SAUTO 07-11-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10742090)
IMO, Wiggins made the wrong college choice from a productivity standpoint. The Bill Self offense is about the worst possible offense Wiggins would be suited to. If he played for UNC or UK he would have averaged 20+ PPG a game. I don't think pairing him up with Lebron is going to be great for his long term development, but it would be good for the Cavs. I'd like to see Wiggins traded and bloom on his own, show everybody that he can be THE ALL STAR, and get people to stop talking about this "he's not an alpha dog" nonsense.

Why would Lebron be bad for his development?
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chiefzilla1501 07-11-2014 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10742090)
IMO, Wiggins made the wrong college choice from a productivity standpoint. The Bill Self offense is about the worst possible offense Wiggins would be suited to. If he played for UNC or UK he would have averaged 20+ PPG a game. I don't think pairing him up with Lebron is going to be great for his long term development, but it would be good for the Cavs. I'd like to see Wiggins traded and bloom on his own, show everybody that he can be THE ALL STAR, and get people to stop talking about this "he's not an alpha dog" nonsense. I think he should just start telling people he killed grizzly bears in Canada when he was growing up. I think the media would eat that up, gush at his "tenacity" or some dumb shit.

Wiggins has a ton of work to do. He has to improve his jump shot. More importantly, he has to put a ton of time developing a left. It's a really good deal for him to be in an offense like this where for the first few years, what's expected of him is to run the system, share the ball, and watch the opportunities that open up when Kyrie and Lebron are opening up teammates.

dirk digler 07-11-2014 06:29 PM

Not much offense in this Cavs-Bucks matchup. Wiggins-Parker probably a little nervous for their first game

BWillie 07-11-2014 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10742095)
Jordan needed a supporting cast too. The reason I always think MJ will be untouchable is that in the last 5 minutes of the game, it didn't matter who was on the court with MJ. There are instances here and there of him passing the ball. But he was basically going to own the ball, everyone knew he was wanting to shoot it every single time, and he was still unstoppable.

I'll give you that, it was amazing. While exciting, it is USUALLY a foolish way to play basketball. Look up studies regarding guys like Kobe Bryant, who many people regard as "clutch", and it can be proven that he routinely hurts his team by playing hero ball down the stretch of games, going one on one and jacking up a forced shot instead of running offense, moving the ball, and getting the ball the open man, regardless of who it is. This is something Lebron doesn't mind doing, he doesn't care if he gets the last shot, he doesn't care how it's done, he just wants the win the game. It's quite logical, that if you get double teamed, or are in a position for a bad shot you get rid of it rather than be prideful and try to just "be the man" or the "alpha dog". Lebron is the most efficient player in basketball, it's one of the reasons his win shares is so high. In that sense, Lebron doesn't have an ego.

KC_Connection 07-11-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10742061)
I agree. Next season will be their year.hopefully they get everyone else on the same page this year.
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Have to consider the Spurs and Thunder the favorites this season.

New World Order 07-11-2014 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10742095)
Jordan needed a supporting cast too. The reason I always think MJ will be untouchable is that in the last 5 minutes of the game, it didn't matter who was on the court with MJ. There are instances here and there of him passing the ball. But he was basically going to own the ball, everyone knew he was wanting to shoot it every single time, and he was still unstoppable.



Absolutely this

DaKCMan AP 07-11-2014 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10742015)
If Wiggins does play tonight they have to sign him first and then he can't be traded for 30 days.

Not true. He can play without signing, but he'd be stupid to without insurance.

DaKCMan AP 07-11-2014 06:42 PM

Jabari Parker is a stud.

New World Order 07-11-2014 06:44 PM

It would be stupid to trade Wiggins for love.

DaKCMan AP 07-11-2014 06:46 PM

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Bambi 07-11-2014 06:51 PM

Parker and Wiggins both look fantastic.

mcaj22 07-11-2014 06:53 PM

parker and freaky greeky are going to make a nice team. shame they will be coached by Kidd

BigMeatballDave 07-11-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10741882)
Manning's team collapsed because the team didn't bother getting good backups. It wasn't because Manning is so amazing. The very next year, Luck brought them right back. As a matter of fact, Manning's last year with the Colts was a 10-6 year, and Luck's been better than that, at 11-5, both years he's been in the NFL.

Uh, in case you hadn't noticed, Luck is pretty ****ing good.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-11-2014 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10741504)
Wiggins is in his rookie contract dumbass.

In 2015-16 LeBron will be making about 24MM, Irving 18MM and Wiggins 6. That's $48 million committed to those three guys. Good luck finding another 19 for Love.


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