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I'm not pushing Gruden. Just saying I'd prefer him over Cowher. I'd like a young coach that will be around for a very long time (meaning we will be winning a lot of games). But, how many first time coaches even survive for a few years? For every Jim & John Harbaugh or Sean Payton there are a bunch of Haley's, Josh McDaniels, Steve Spagnuolo, Tony Sporano, or Jack Del Rio. Maybe the good news is that Clark now has experience of doing this and he will have learned via the process. |
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Pioli has done absolutely nothing to improve the team, aside from Houston. The offensive line is still fine. Defensive line still cannot stop the run, and all of our best players are Herm holdovers, now 4 years older. Pioli simply couldn't be any worse at his job. But at least he's an asshole about it, so there's that. |
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Why would Cowher care about total control. That's the demand of a person who's trying to build a reputation. Cowher's rep is solid. If he comes here he won't be a tyrant...it's not his personality anyway.
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Next year it's really gonna come together. Albert, Allen, Hudson, Asamoah and Winston are gonna kick ass. |
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I'd be more on board with that than HC. |
I think if he were to come here, he's coming as HC, with him and Clark picking the GM best fit to work with him.
Which is a sweet relief, because that doesn't seem to have been happening. |
Clay, how would you feel about
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No, I don't want Cowher as HC.
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I'm far more apt to see him become our GM, because that way his conservaderp methods can't infect the team on gameday.
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He only believed in Romo for 1.5 seasons. Had he stayed, maybe Romo would have won something but most likely not. The thing to keep in mind is that it's not only a game on the field, it's a game everywhere else. It's all a big ****ing game and these guys couldn't care less about the city or the fans. If Romo wins a Super Bowl, there will be an interview with Parcells stating "That's MY guy". |
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Clark is probably less cheap than you imagine since everyone is getting fired soon.
It'd be easy for him to save money by maintaining status quo. |
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A) Cowher is a capable HC. B) Stanzi isn't an NFL QB. |
To make money ya gota spend money. Can Pioli, let RAC bow out. Then go all out for a great HC. Im totally fine with Cowher or Gruden. I want a coach that will give a team some attitude and confidence.
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Fired Carl Peterson, Herman Edwards and the rest of the coaching staff Hired Scott Pioli to a rumored "richest gm contract ever" or something like that. Hired the #1 OC in Weis to essentially HC money Hired the #1 DC in RAC to essentially HC money Paid off Haley, Chan Gailey (am I missing someone, seems there has been more turnaround) Is about to fire Pioli (very $$$) and RAC + Staff if the rumors are true. Will hire new GM and coaching staff and hopefully it's a homerun. I don't think he's been cheap in FA or hiring a coach last year worth a damn or refused to give the money to resign Carr as much as no one wants to come here because of Pioli and the situation he's caused. --Carr was rumored to want out badly. --Bowe was rumored to want out badly until he publicly stated otherwise...yeah, don't really believe that he wants to stay. --Albert will probably leave if tagged. --Fisher rumored to walk out of the interview with Pioli --Manning wanted no part of KC, likely because he knew...as everyone does...that this situation is toxic. |
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There are two areas I want to see improved before I declare our talent a bust. I want to see how they perform with a legit HC and I would like to see some team leaders brought in. Hopefully the new QB will come in and take that position with the offense, but we need to bring a guy in defensively that will make these players more accountable and keep them motivated. It is painfully obvious that DJ and Hali are not those guys. It is also very apparent that this team quit less than half way into the season. That kind of thing just doesn't happen with the two things mentioned above. But this issue means one of two things: we lack all around leadership or we have a team full of pussies. I am inclined to believe the former. |
still will never forget when they asked Pioli why Peyton's team never called him back. He was like i have no idea and the look on his face. I know there is video out there of it somewhere.
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I get the inherent risk of giving a new guy a shot at something as important as GM, especially since he must be hands on, but that is why I really like Tom Gamble. The man has done it all: college scouting, pro scouting, contract negotiations, and even has some coaching background. This man knows football. What man could let Clark enjoy soccer without a care in the world, better than this one? |
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I truly, and honestly don't give a shit who we hire. Don't care, at all. Cowher, Shanahan, Gruden, all names I've kind of thought were shitty in the past, all look pretty damned good now. Mother**** you, Scott Pioli.
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I said long ago that if it were me, I'd have fired his ass around week 6, told Donovan to give Bowe whatever the **** he wants, and went out and found my guy. But maybe since there is two weeks left, there isn't anything to gain from doing it now. Quote:
And why the **** are we talking about finding a coach first? Hire a good GM, let him hire the coach. There has to be some cohesiveness there. They have to be able to find synergy between personnel decisions and scheme. It just has to be that way. Find the right GM, he'll find the right coach. |
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Parcells, Vermeil, and Seifert were all capable HC - HoF material even - and they couldn't do it. |
The eternal optimist, NFL cheerleader, and most conservative football talking head there is, Kevin Harlan, sounds like he feels Pioli is done.
Best sign yet. Of course, he went on to say there wasn't a franchise QB available in the upcoming draft... |
I'm with htis on all of this. It makes NO sense to fire him now. There isn't any one player to appease like Cam Newton in Carolina. Let Pioli own this entire season of shit, and move on with a #1 pick, and a fresh regime.
But I know it's not patience that is the issue, it's fear. Don't let it consume you. Pioli, Rac, Daboll, and Cassel are ****ing out of here in less than 2 weeks. Take it to the bank. |
You're probably right on the firing Pioli stuff, I just wanted to throw it out there.
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I think you just hire a GM that isn't a ****ing pile of mother****ing **** juice mixed with runny dog shit and firmed up with puss from a festering rat plague boil. If you get a GM that isn't an egomaniac control freak and understands the importance of a good coach and doesn't just try to execute some dumbass system where he tries to be the smartest guy in the room, they should get along OK. Are there any other cases where a coach is forced on a GM? |
bring in Trent Green as OC.
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It's purely Machiavellian - absolute power corrupts absolutely. You could bring in anybody you want but the minute you give him complete control, things get skewed. Maybe not to Pioli levels but they still get skewed. The coach and GM HAVE to at least be peers or it is ultimately doomed to fail. |
IMO, if Clark wants to be the type of owner we have all talked about, you can't have someone with absolute power, as we've seen what can happen.
Therefor, you bring in a HC and a GM, tell them "damn it, you two are gonna work together and we're gonna get this right" and roll from there. |
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But how are the fade able to chew them up every single time? they never fail to get abused against them, pathetic displays every time. |
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Well, Allen is a rookie who has been getting abused (showed improvement before Raiders game), Stephenson clearly isn't ready, and Lilja always gets raped by Oakland.
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I would also question the fact that against Oakland, when they were beating us inside, we kept running the ball where? You guessed it, inside.
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I don't know who it was that said that Carl and Marty were peers, but that wasn't the case. Carl was the boss for most of their time together. Marty was reportedly given greater control over personnel at the end, but it's not clear to me what the arrangement was and it certainly didn't improve the product on the field. |
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The GM will make the personnel decisions, based on what the coach inputs to him that he wants and what he then thinks is the best. We have a huge disconnect here in that our current GM makes decisions seemingly not caring what the coach wants and what HE along thinks is best. The NFL is a little different than big business, but you are right in that one guy will make the decision. |
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Meh, I don't know about all of that. In just about every organization ever, there's been a boss and a subordinate. And from a technical perspective, the GM is the boss. Because he's the manager. He's no different than a CEO is the boss of the COO CFO and whatever other divisions there are. If the GM is worth a ****, he'll let the coach coach, just like the CEO lets the CFO and COO run their business. IMO, it is no different than a CEO. In order to be successful the GM needs to
All of which is like any other manager in the country. And there are good managers and shitty managers. Pioli was (you see what I did there, "was" :D) a shitty manager. I don't think it is wise to force a coach on a GM. Translated to the business world, that's like being a manager over someone you can't fire. That's not good for anybody. |
The GM, once the season starts, should really have nothing to do with the gameday, football things. He brings the players in, then lets the coach coach.
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Yep, spot on there patteu.
We just have a huge void and problem with that right now, but it's about to be fixed. |
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I'm suggesting the GM and head coach should be peers and work hand-in-hand. To take your analogy further, Clark Hunt is the CEO. The GM is the CTO and the coach is the COO. The CTO creates the vision and acquires the "technical" pieces to accomplish the organizational vision. The COO carries out the plan and manages the operation. They're peers, independent and interdependent at the same time. |
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I don't see any reason to believe Clark will now start hiring coaches to change that dynamic. And frankly, I don't think we want that. Clark isn't a football guy and doesn't immerse himself in the league enough to know the nuances between coaches, scheme, personnel, all that stuff. That'd be like me me picking drapes. I'm most likely to make a horrible decision. I may pick some out that strike some fancy with me, but the probability of them working with the design function of the room, or having any intrinsic functional use is low. I could luck out and make the right choice, but let's be real here. I'm gonna **** that up. Bad. IMO, you pick a good GM. GM hires a good coach. Both do their jobs and work together. If a GM is incapable of that, he's not a good GM. |
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Stephenson, Allen, and Lilja have not been this year, and weren't Sunday. |
are we there yet?
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Look at it this way. Pioli is a shit GM. If Clark came in and structurally changed things to where they were peers, he'd still be a shit GM. The problem is we have a shit GM, not because the structure is bad. |
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This line has been fine for two years from a pass blocking standpoint outside guys like Richardson, and Lilja/Wiegmann getting raped by Oakland. The QBs make them look at a lot worse. |
We must go HC first because we cannot allow a dipshit GM to force talent that isn't good enough or doesn't fit a system onto the coaching the staff.
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I'm starting to think it's gonna be a fairly big name guy, Clark will have to pay, but I think he wants to win 1a but bring the fans back in full force 1b.
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Yeah it's going to be Bill Polian. LaCanFora is hardly ever wrong.
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Some people will probably be wearing back off their own merit this sunday, but is the Blackout officially continuing?
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I want to see another GM whose last name starts with a P about as much as I want to see another USC QB.
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