Hi Guys,

I had this new flavor of Doritos tonight, couldn't eat more than about 6 or 7 before I decided that they're awful. Stay far away!

Love you guys!

-SR

Thank you for the warning you seem nice. I wouldn't have eaten it because I'm not a fan of pineapples but I will tell you what I am a fan of and that's the Kansas City Chiefs! Ever heard of them?

Thank you for the warning!!! You're very nice unlike Otter!!!

They're an odd combo. I tried them out of curiosity but they're a definite no-go.

Okay this is freaking me out because I'm a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs as well!!!

Love KC CHIEFS TOO! CJ CHIEFS 95 needs to sign!

I like the Chiefs. I also like Simply Red. I like Rasputin. I like KC Hawks.

Quesadilla Joe is a ****ing idiot.

Okay now this is epic IMHO!

I also like my post

Pineapple doesn't belong on potato chips...

They are going to have to trade him for the future of the team. With what's his name out for wife beating and a bunch of unknowns, no real free agents to speak of and no prime beef in the pipeline. I say trade him, Maybe we get a solid stopgap at dt, and a couple of firsts.

Do you think the Doritos company just decided one day to pineapple the chip? I'm sure a ton of research and testing went into this multimillion $$ decision. Tasting polls were probably taken across a wide variety of demographics. Chris Jones may have even been a a pineapple chip taster. We can't take one persons opinion as fact. Sorry SR, I will seek these out and make my own opinion and relay to our team here.

Who is saying this? Do you have an inside source that says he wants Donald money?

If Veach offers Jones $28 million AAV with $75 million guaranteed then no one should be pissed he turned it down. That includes Kelce and Mahomes.

Kelce and Mahomes will know what was offered to Jones. The real numbers not what ends up being public.

I've thought many times that Quesadilla Joe's posting is solely for the purpose of having a Denver thread always be on the front page of a Chiefs board, and posting stuff he knows he will get a reaction so that the thread stays at the top of the most replies ever, even out doing the Patrick Mahomes thread. :shrug:

People said it didn't belong on Pizza too. :p

It doesn't belong on pizza. My stomach always spins when I see people eat pizza that way.

It doesn't.

Pineapple is great on Pizza. A Happy Hawaiian with some jalapenos added on or double sausage with pineapple and jalapenos. Both are awesome!

Yes, people said that.


Yes, people were correct.

DID THIS POS BREAK THE BANK YET???????

If Chris Jones likes pineapple on pizza, trade his fat ass NOW!!!!

He's gonna be traded. The Tyreek trade tells us no one is above the TEAM. Greed will only get you a seat to watching the next Chiefs SB.

As someone who lives there, this is very true. It's all.good! :D

Wanting to be paid what you are worth isn't putting yourself before the team. It's not greed to want to be paid as much money as you can possibly get.

Anyone acting like Jones' value and Tyreek's value are the same is just insanely ignorant. Tyreek was traded, but we still have the greatest player ever to cover up any deficiency's his loss might bring us. Right now we don't have anyone on D that can come close to doing that.

For some unknown reason I always figured you lived in TexAss.

Used to. I moved to Maui several years ago.

Lighten up Fancis. We want to keep Bolton and Sneed right? Tell Jones to take his 30 mil per year and go elsewhere. He's too old to do that deal.

Mahomes is now like the 7th highest paid QB yet he's the very best. Same with Kelce. Get it right!

Our LB's and secondary are expected to be top 10 this year. So yes we do.

We're getting ready to realize how overrated CJ was.

Today marks exactly 2 weeks into his holdout.

That actually is exactly what greed is. You don't have to hate him for it, but just FYI.

How much longer are they in St. Joe, and will he make an appearance there at all?

Looks like 8/17 is the last day based on the schedule the Chiefs posted. So another $500K or so in fines. Would think after that he shows up to practice. Then again, his holdout is not rational to begin with, so guess we'll have to see.

Given the problems with the DL WHY DIDN’T THE CHIEFS GO AFTER YANNICK Ngakoue who the Bears just signed? Or they could’ve gone after Suh who the Buccaneers just resigned. Who else is out there?

Because they currently have less than $1 million in cap space.

lucky!

I worded that wrong. Wanting to be paid what you are worth shouldn't be considered greedy. If you wanna be technical about it, then you could call everyone making more than $500,000/yr greedy. It's an intense desire to be paid more than what is needed.

Chris Jones is being a bitch because the Chiefs didn't resign Frank Clark. Now he is going to try to get all the money that he can.

He would have taken much less if Frank Clark had also been signed. But since they let him walk... he is being pissy.

So, since Veach and Reid are such great talent evaluators... trade him for draft picks. Stock up and go get what is needed in the draft?

I am starting to lean towards this. I mean why pay him "handsomely" when he is going to be 30 and he is under contract. Let him play out this years contract and move on from him in 2024. I do want to keep Bolton and Sneed. Look to the draft and FA in 2024. Why give a 30 yro $30 mill plus God only knows "guaranteed" $$$$$ :hmmm:

Or let him play out this year and then tag him. Then do it again. Then let him go.

If Donovan Smith is a good pass blocker, and are young WRs burst onto the scene in any way at all, it doesn't much matter if we trade Chris Jones.

Losing Chris Jones is not going to meaningfully impact our Vegas SB odds.

For this season it does. It absolutely does.

Chris Jones needs to be playing for this team this season

I'm good with this.

Chiefs can win the Super Bowl without Jones, but the margin for error is much smaller.

Their best shot to win it again this season is with Jones on the field.

Hi you two!

How are you two doing? It's been about 19 hours - how's life been?

-SR

The Chiefs paid him what he was worth once before. He isn't 25 anymore. This isn't a "what have you done for me" more than it is a "what can you do for me deal structure.

DT's have historically fallen off in their early 30's. Even Aaron Donald had it happen last year. Paying someone that much for that risk is why this is taking so long and may not get done.

I’m great now that you’re here!

How r u?

Tagging him would be a HUGE mistake! He would get I believe it is 125%? Of the top 5 players at his position. I may be wrong but I know that it would be astronomical to tag him - this is not an option.

This year it would have been just under $19M.

Watched a highlight video of Jones 2022 season and he single-handedly killed 29 drives (defined as causing or recovering a turnover on any down or registering a tackle/sack on any third or fourth down). He may have had more but that is what they showed in the video I saw.

If you figure the average NFL game has 9 drives and we played 20 games that’s a total of 180 drives-ish.

Jones contributed to or outright caused the death of more than 1/6th of all opponent drives last season.

Great! Still loving the Kansas City Chiefs!

Losing both our tackles didn't meaningfully impact our LV SB odds either.

How did that turn out?

Let CJ play this year out. Repeat as SB champs. Acquire new DT in free agency. Draft LT. Threepeat. Simple as that.

Im starting to come around to this line of thinking as well.

How much effort do you think will actually go into this season if a new deal isn't signed?

I wouldn't expect seeing 100% of what we are used to seeing from CJ

I'm starting to think that's what's happening.

Sure, show everyone you’ve lost a step as you head to free agency.

It would be interesting to know how far apart bart and cj are.

4.20 milly

or 6.9 milly LMFAO!

LMAO

Who says that he's worth $30M? His agent? Apparently not the Chiefs. Aaron Donald wasn't worth what he got paid, but the Rams are stupid and overpaid. Now Jones and his agent have an opinion that Jones should get stupid money too. That may be their opinion, but that doesn't mean that's what he's worth. That price is 1/7 of the cap. My opinion is, he isn't worth that much of the cap. I'm not the one paying him, but it appears that the Chiefs front office doesn't think that he's worth that either. So, it sounds like he's being greedy to me.

I literally just laughed out loud (exhaled loudly through my nose)

So you think he’ll dog it this season and tank his future market value to spite a franchise that drafted him, took good care of him financially, and got him 2 rings?

I haven’t seen any signs during his career which would indicate that he’s profoundly stupid, so I doubt that’s the course of action he takes.

Are you the dude who re-infected himself with clymadia via masterbation?

I can't wait for CJ to sign the contract with his BBC lmao!

Okay now I bet that was ****ing epic!

Double B don't forget to mask-up going into the new week!

My guess would be that CJ wants 30 + and the Chiefs are pushing for 27, 28 3 year deal.

I always do going to get the 5th vaxx too with the recent COVID spikes

Rams gave Donald that money cause he was gonna retire and they could have thought it was a good chance of being a 1 year contract with him retiring…..well Donald didn’t retire and now you have players looking at his $31.66M yearly avg as some kind of measure for DTs.

1). Donald at $31.66M

2). Q. Williams at $24M
3). Simmons at $23.5M
4). Payne at $22.5M
5). Lawrence at $22.5M
6). Hargrave at $21M
7). L. Williams at $21M
8). Buckner at $21M
9). Chris Jones at $20M

Looks like the “norm” is elite guys that resets the DT market raise the average by $500k. With that in mind Jones should be a new contract worth $24.5M average. Donald’s $31.66M shouldn’t even be looked at.

Even if Veach wanted to award Jones and go beyond that $500K increase a $25M average should be good for both sides with the ONLY thing in discussion should be 3 year or 4 year extension.

Asking for $30M+ is ridiculous and Veach should trade his ass.

I think the Chiefs are looking at a 4 year deal with 3 legit and the 4th year to raise the average. Jones is looking at a 5 year deal withe 4 legit... Either way he signs by Wed/Thursday a missing the game next Sunday is over $1 million loss...

I think he should play out the last year of his contract at least, he did sign it afterall.

Hold out next year or whatever if they tag him, fine. But finish your current deal at least.

The Wizard out manuvered the Cheetah and is now conjuring up something stone cold for Chris Jones. Don't tread on Veach. :reaper:

Honestly, that's probably the sticking point.

:hmmm:

That's not the way it works. Guys get contracts and people use that contract all the time. Also to act like those guys are anywhere near Chris Jones level is hilarious. Yeah Donald is a top 5 defensive player of all time, but that doesn't mean no one can come close to his deal.

Williams at $24M - 1x 1st team AP
Simmons at $23.5M - 2x 2nd team AP
Payne at $22.5M - made a pro bowl
Lawrence at $22.5M - made a pro bowl
Hargrave at $21M - made a pro bowl
L. Williams at $21M - made a pro bowl
Buckner at $21M - 1x 1st team AP, 1x 2nd team AP

Now Chris Jones
2x SB champ, 1x 1st team AP, 3x 2nd team AP, DPOTY finalist

Two of those 2nd team All-Pros could easily be 1st team.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/8f18e886...d032e23a15.jpg

Just because those dumb shits are one upping each other by $500k a year doesn't mean Chris Jones should. Yeah he's not on Aaron Donald's level, but those other guys aren't on Jones' level.

That's not how it works.

What the hell do you mean “ that’s not how things work”? It’s EXACTLY how things work in the NFL and the Rams giving Donald that contract is an outlier. Hell I’d say it’s worse than the reaction people had when the Browns gave Watson that guaranteed contract….has it happened since? NO because that’s not how contracts work in the NFL.

We can all agree that Jones is the best DT in the NFL and he should be the highest paid at his position based on the market and NFL history on how that works is Jones should get $24.5M avg annual salary.

Players that are best at there position don’t historically get almost $10M more than the current highest player…..they wait the offseason out, see what everyone else gets paid first and then sign for just a little more than that current highest paid player.

So half way between Williams and Donald? $27.25 Million? That would put a significant gap between CJ and the rest of the field, while also not being in the outlier region of Donald's deal..:shrug:

I think Chris Jones will miss the first pre-season game and maybe the 3rd but Vranch won't blink and Jones is losing money daily so i think he will show up for the third pre-season and play under contract he already has. Chiefs may tag him next year and possibly try to trade him. We need him this year but next year Vroop will make some moves or draft DT