Brett Favre gets owned by Mark Gastineau

[Hammock Parties]

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[Megatron96]

Jeez. CTE anyone?

[New World Order]

Dang

[Rasputin]

That's a long time to hold a grudge like that. Brett Fraffarve is a sleazeball anyways, so he had it coming.

[Wallcrawler]

He didn't get owned lol. That shit was cringe as fuck.

22 years later? 22 years later you're gonna approach Favre, crying about you want your sack back, as if Favre could change the record books even if he wanted to.

Why didn't you make your voice heard at the time, instead of hugging on Strahan?

This is just dumb.


Besides, if everyone knows that Favre took a dive for Strahan, if YOU believe that, then you know you're still the true record holder. There's no asterisk, or "yeah but" associated with your record.

Dude just came off wierd as fuck out in public crying about shit that supposedly happened over 2 decades ago.

TJ Watt broke your record too bro. You gonna cry to him about how he had a longer season?

Records are made to be broken champ. Like your little heart, apparently.

[DJ's left nut]

Yeah - there aren't gonna be a ton of situations where Favre is the more likeable guy in a confrontation.

This is one of 'em.

Gastineau is a monumental prick. And now he's dementia-riddled as well.

Favre didn't get 'owned' here - Gastineau just looked sad.

I'll bet he and Pete Rose would've been best buds just sitting around telling stories about how the entire world is against them without a single ounce of self-awareness.

[Bwana]

He's not wrong, even though he's a douche. I remember watching it live at the time and calling bullshit. It was obvious it was staged. With that said, Gastineau looks like death warmed over. He needs to get a hobby, other than pounding Old Crow.

[rydogg58]

Owned? I'm not sure what I could call that other than pathetic.

[DaFace]

Yeah - there aren't gonna be a ton of situations where Favre is the more likeable guy in a confrontation.

This is one of 'em.

Gastineau is a monumental prick. And now he's dementia-riddled as well.

Favre didn't get 'owned' here - Gastineau just looked sad.

I'll bet he and Pete Rose would've been best buds just sitting around telling stories about how the entire world is against them without a single ounce of self-awareness.

Yeah, Favre already responded to this on TwiX, and it seems like a pretty reasonable explanation to me. Favre's a douchenozzle, but this doesn't seem to be evidence of that.

https://x.com/BrettFavre/status/1866643351254028364

I want to clear the air on the footage released showing a small dustup between myself and Mark Gastineau, the former New York Jet. Back in 2002, when Michael Strahan sacked me at the end of a game that we had wrapped up, I was in no way trying to hurt Mark Gastineau. I was trying to close out a game and squeeze the last bit of fun out of a hard-fought game. I booted out of a run thinking it would be wide open, saw Strahan standing there and ducked down.

The game was over. There was no need for me to do anything spectacular. It probably wasn’t Michael’s best sack or tackle for loss. In a different game or situation, I would have made a bigger effort to avoid the sack or TFL. But at no point was I thinking about hurting Gastineau. Maybe it crossed my mind to help Strahan. I didn’t think it through. That wasn’t my forte at the time. I just wanted to have fun and compete.

In retrospect, I understand how Gastineau feels. We played a brutal game. Gastineau played during an era where guys didn’t make generational wealth. I see now how being the Sack King would elevate his value at card shows, strengthen his case for the Hall of Fame, increase his demand as a public speaker. I had no way of knowing that then. I realize now the potential financial implications because football is far more business-oriented than when me or Mark played. There was no malice on my part.

Mark was a great player. My understanding is he’s a great guy and a fun teammate, a guy who played with the kind of joy and passion I tried to mimic. I understand his frustration, but I’m not his enemy. A while back, he saw me at a card show and got his frustration off his chest. It’s not the kind of moment that should be filmed and released. It was a private moment of frustration between two old football warriors.

I have a great deal of respect for Mark. I hope one day he joins me in the Hall of Fame. He earned it. Look at his numbers. He eclipsed 20 sacks twice and had 19 in another year! Mark definitely left an indelible mark on the game. I hope this controversy brings attention to just how great Mark Gastineau was. He belongs in Canton.

Merry Christmas, everyone.

Brett.

[Bearcat]

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[ThaVirus]

Yeah, he totally owned him..

How can anyone watch that exchange and feel anything other than second hand embarrassment? For both parties.

And it’s not easy to make me feel sorry for Brett Favre these days lol

[DJ's left nut]

I've always found the 'took a dive' thing to be a little odd as well.

I mean yeah, he went down rather than get hit. But...uh...what else was he gonna do? I mean unless it was a concerted effort by EVERYONE to get Strahan that record. Because Strahan came untouched off the edge, the play was designed to roll out that direction and as Farve came out of the play fake, there was Strahan.

If that's the Super Bowl, does anyone think Brett Favre is going to juke Strahan out of his drawers there? Play that at full speed and in that spot, Favre's getting brought down.

We see QBs go down in that situation all the time. Especially old ones finishing up a 12-4 season prior to getting ready for the playoffs in garbage time of a game that was already decided.

Holding that against Favre has always been ridiculous to me.

[Pepe Silvia]

Cringe.

[stumppy]

I would have thought Gastineau would have been on Favres ass before now. No matter, I'm glad he roasted Favre. Add this to the list of scumbag bullshit Favre has done.
Always thought that record going to Strahan was total bullshit.

[Easy 6]

Yeah, Favre already responded to this on TwiX, and it seems like a pretty reasonable explanation to me. Favre's a douchenozzle, but this doesn't seem to be evidence of that.

https://x.com/BrettFavre/status/1866643351254028364

I was watching that game and always thought Favre took a dive, but his explanation here changes my tune a bit... he couldn't have said that with more grace, well done Brett

[KC_Connection]

Bizarre exchange there and it appears Gastineau is very unwell.

[DJ's left nut]

I was watching that game and always thought Favre took a dive, but his explanation here changes my tune a bit... he couldn't have said that with more grace, well done Brett

Yeah.

Wow.

That was annoyingly well said by Favre. And there's enough of a factual basis to it that I figure he's actually the primary author there, even if a PR person probably gave it a once-over.

It's as well as it can possibly be handled, anyway. He can't 'give him his sack back' or whatever the hell it was Gastineau was rambling about. But that's an awfully good response.

[Bump]

He didn't get owned lol. That shit was cringe as ****.

22 years later? 22 years later you're gonna approach Favre, crying about you want your sack back, as if Favre could change the record books even if he wanted to.

Why didn't you make your voice heard at the time, instead of hugging on Strahan?

This is just dumb.


Besides, if everyone knows that Favre took a dive for Strahan, if YOU believe that, then you know you're still the true record holder. There's no asterisk, or "yeah but" associated with your record.

Dude just came off wierd as **** out in public crying about shit that supposedly happened over 2 decades ago.

TJ Watt broke your record too bro. You gonna cry to him about how he had a longer season?

Records are made to be broken champ. Like your little heart, apparently.

ya thought the same thing. When you watch the video, ya Brett Favre fell down like Joe Montana did a couple of times while playing for the Chiefs because he was going to get sacked regardless.

[In58men]

He definitely didn’t get “owned”

ROFL

[Megatron96]

Some odd takes here. Guess the Favre hate really does color reality.

I remember that game, and never thought Brett was taking a dive to help Strahan. I thought basically what he said, that the game was over, no need to take a hit there. And it wasn't like Brett was going to juke Strahan in that spot. It was go down, or take a big unnecessary hit at the end of game that was already decided. If that was Mahomes, we'd all want him to go down there.

I liked Gastineau as a football player back in the day. Sad to see him suffering with whatever's wrong with him now.

[DaFace]

I was watching that game and always thought Favre took a dive, but his explanation here changes my tune a bit... he couldn't have said that with more grace, well done Brett

Watching the clip (which I hadn't really paid attention to before), it feels like Mahomes has gone down just like that from time to time. When you barely turn around and already have a pass rusher 2 yards from you, the likelihood of getting out of it is basically zero. The fact that the game was already basically over makes it even more understandable that he wouldn't try and make some crazy play to avoid it.

[DRM08]

Jeez. CTE anyone?

Gastineau did announce a few years ago that he was diagnosed with Parkinsons & Alzheimers/dementia.

[Megatron96]

Gastineau did announce a few years ago that he was diagnosed with Parkinsons & Alzheimers/dementia.



Ah, must've missed that. Sucks for him. Terrible way to have to live.

[New World Order]

He’s waited 23 years to say that?

[FloridaMan88]

Bizarre exchange there and it appears Gastineau is very unwell.

His main claim to fame was that single season sack record… which Favre laid down to give to Strahan.

[DRM08]

Watching the clip (which I hadn't really paid attention to before), it feels like Mahomes has gone down just like that from time to time. When you barely turn around and already have a pass rusher 2 yards from you, the likelihood of getting out of it is basically zero. The fact that the game was already basically over makes it even more understandable that he wouldn't try and make some crazy play to avoid it.

I remember Brady would take a dive when he knew the pass rushers had him cornered and no better options. The funniest one was against the Bears. I think it was Khalil Mack coming after him and Tom went down very quick. Live to fight another down instead of doing something stupid that might lead to injury or turnovers.

[Easy 6]

Watching the clip (which I hadn't really paid attention to before), it feels like Mahomes has gone down just like that from time to time. When you barely turn around and already have a pass rusher 2 yards from you, the likelihood of getting out of it is basically zero. The fact that the game was already basically over makes it even more understandable that he wouldn't try and make some crazy play to avoid it.

Yeah in many situations it best to just curl up and not get blasted, Mahomes is excellent at it and it helps explain his durability

One fact about the "dive" that kinda got lost to me over time, is that the Packers had the game wrapped up so there was no call for any kind of heroics

[DJ's left nut]

He’s waited 23 years to say that?

Go ahead and ask Mark Gastineau what year it is.

He'll probably say "Tuesday"

I have a hard time holding anything he does these days against him. But very little compunction in noting that very few people have anything positive to say about him as a teammate or person in the years leading up to his mental decline.

He's just not a very good dude.

[stumppy]

I remember watching that game. Pretty sure nobody even touched Strahan while Favre moved over to exactly where Strahan was running and laid down. I've always thought that play was run with giving the record to Strahan in mind.


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[DRM08]

Yeah, Favre already responded to this on TwiX, and it seems like a pretty reasonable explanation to me. Favre's a douchenozzle, but this doesn't seem to be evidence of that.

https://x.com/BrettFavre/status/1866643351254028364

That's a very good statement from Favre. I agree with him that Gastineau should be in the Hall of Fame. Maybe this situation will help bring more attention to the high quality of Gastineau's performance in the 1980's.

[TinyEvel]

I think Favre's response is gentlemanly and kind.

I shot a commercial with Favre in 2002. He was a good guy and pro on the set as on the field.

He did eat too much chips and extra hot salsa at the craft services table and couldn't say his lines for about 15 minutes. Other than that he was great.

[Mile High Mania]

This also suggests that none of Mark’s sacks were from a similar slide to avoid a hit situation. Don’t get me wrong, I thought it was BS when I watched it happen, but to get worked up this many years later? Meh. And no, he did not get owned. I do feel sad for Mark, appears he is dealing with some issues due to game.

[Megatron96]

I remember watching that game. Pretty sure nobody even touched Strahan while Favre moved over to exactly where Strahan was running and laid down. I've always thought that play was run with giving the record to Strahan in mind.


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Lol, yeah, I can just see it now. "Hey Brett, we're going to have you naked bootleg right into Strahan, who we're not going to block just because. Try not to get killed."

Sound about right, lol.

[DJ's left nut]

I think Favre's response is gentlemanly and kind.

I shot a commercial with Favre in 2002. He was a good guy and pro on the set as on the field.

He did eat too much chips and extra hot salsa at the craft services table and couldn't say his lines for about 15 minutes. Other than that he was great.

He'll never be as cool as Kevin Butler...

"Apart from you?"

[stumppy]

It gets interesting at around 1:50 mark.


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[stumppy]

Lol, yeah, I can just see it now. "Hey Brett, we're going to have you naked bootleg right into Strahan, who we're not going to block just because. Try not to get killed."

Sound about right, lol.
Sure, Strahan really busted him up on that 'sack'.
Right, except Favre changed the play and didn't tell anyone about it. The he moved right into the path of an untouched Strahan.

[Megatron96]

Lol, obviously a GAstineau fan. You see these kinds of 'analyses' all over YT about just about every great player or whatever. It's like all the "leBron is the GOAT not MJ" stuff.

[TwistedChief]

Well, from another angle, if Strahan hadn't broken it, Justin Houston would've tied it in the 2014 season. And that would've been as special for the Chiefs as a season where we didn't have a single WR catch a touchdown pass.

Oh, that was also 2014. Only year under Reid we didn't make the postseason. Weird one.

[Megatron96]

Sure, Strahan really busted him up on that 'sack'.
Right, except Favre changed the play and didn't tell anyone about it. The he moved right into the path of an untouched Strahan.



Lol, hey have at it. Not going to try and convince you otherwise about something you obviously have feelings about. When I saw it in rt, it just looked like a busted play, and Favre had to go down or take a hit. But if it makes you feel better to think Favre 'gifted' Strahan with a sack, knock yourself out.

[Easy 6]

I remember watching that game. Pretty sure nobody even touched Strahan while Favre moved over to exactly where Strahan was running and laid down. I've always thought that play was run with giving the record to Strahan in mind.


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Yep, looking at it now with older eyes and hearing Favres explanation... wtf else was he supposed to do there?

[KC_Connection]

Lol, obviously a GAstineau fan. You see these kinds of 'analyses' all over YT about just about every great player or whatever. It's like all the "leBron is the GOAT not MJ" stuff.
But that part is actually true.

[Megatron96]

But that part is actually true.

ROFL
Again, whatever floats your boat.:thumb:

[RedinTexas]

I thought Favre gifted the sack and I don't care. I never liked Gastineau and that video only lowered my opinion of him. Almost all records are eventually broken. Have some class when it happens. Johnny Bench's message to Salvador Perez when Salvy broke the HR record for catchers comes to mind.

[scho63]

Gastineau out-douches douchebag Favre by a mile.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Favre is a lying piece of shit.

Neither of those clips show Favre, after the previous play, walking back to the Packers huddle, having a brief chat with Strahan, letting Strahan know he was going to run right and lay down.
This was huge controversy at the time. The sack came at midfield on 1st and 10 and the packers up 9, with under 3 minutes to play. The giants had no TO’s left. The Packers could have knelt down 3 times and brought the clock under a minute. The game was essentially over and this was the only chance they had to pull it off or it would have raised many more eyebrows.

[loochy]

Owned? I'm not sure what I could call that other than pathetic.


This.

[Easy 6]

Have some class when it happens.

That really boils it down to the bottom

And guess what Mark, Strahans cards aren't worth diddly squat either

[Chiefspants]

Favre is a lying piece of shit.

Neither of those clips show Favre, after the previous play, walking back to the Packers huddle, having a brief chat with Strahan, letting Strahan know he was going to run right and lay down.
This was huge controversy at the time. The sack came at midfield on 1st and 10 and the packers up 9, with under 3 minutes to play. The giants had no TO’s left. The Packers could have knelt down 3 times and brought the clock under a minute. The game was essentially over and this was the only chance they had to pull it off or it would have raised many more eyebrows.

That was my memory of it, too. Favre gave him the record.

Still, that video was hard to watch. There were many better ways to handle that.

[WilliamTheIrish]

That was my memory of it, too. Favre gave him the record.

Still, that video was hard to watch. There were many better ways to handle that.

Gastineau doesn’t move the needle for me either. But the play was a farce and his explanation, even 22 years later, is a straight up lie.

[TwistedChief]

Gastineau doesn’t move the needle for me either. But the play was a farce and his explanation, even 22 years later, is a straight up lie.

I agree he was lying through his teeth, but is the better alternative to say that he gifted Strahan the sack in that moment? Sully the experience and the record when he's probably friends with Strahan and the guy has leveraged the record to better things?

I thought he was pretty gracious, if not honest. I'd rather his response than the unvarnished truth.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I agree he was lying through his teeth, but is the better alternative to say that he gifted Strahan the sack in that moment? Sully the experience and the record when he's probably friends with Strahan and the guy has leverahed the record to better things?

I thought he was pretty gracious, if not honest. I'd rather his response than the unvarnished truth.

You do make a salient point. And in the end, it doesn’t really matter. He has some plausible deniability.

(Unless your Jared Allen and were double and triple teamed by the Rams OL just so you wouldn’t break the record. Or the Packers OL who were pretty angry that they went into the history books as the line that gave up the record).

[Rain Man]

Gastineau is a world-class idiot, but in this case he's correct. Brett Fa-vuh-ruh wiped him off of the record book in a play that compromised the integrity of the sport.

The odd thing for me is that it makes me respect Strahan less, and I can't confirm whether he was even involved. But if I was Strahan, I wouldn't ever say that I held the record, because he doesn't. He came close and then Favre sullied his accomplishment.

[Calcountry]

He didn't get owned lol. That shit was cringe as ****.

22 years later? 22 years later you're gonna approach Favre, crying about you want your sack back, as if Favre could change the record books even if he wanted to.

Why didn't you make your voice heard at the time, instead of hugging on Strahan?

This is just dumb.


Besides, if everyone knows that Favre took a dive for Strahan, if YOU believe that, then you know you're still the true record holder. There's no asterisk, or "yeah but" associated with your record.

Dude just came off wierd as **** out in public crying about shit that supposedly happened over 2 decades ago.

TJ Watt broke your record too bro. You gonna cry to him about how he had a longer season?

Records are made to be broken champ. Like your little heart, apparently.Isn't this the guy that simped out for the blond chick from Beverly hills cop?

[Rain Man]

I wonder if Gastineau was the whistleblower in Favre's welfare scam.

[Calcountry]

Bridgett Nielson. Thank you google. Gastineau and her were a thing, right before she ripped his freaking simp heart out. Guy was a great footballer, but not very smart.

[Rain Man]

I had a lot of impure thoughts about Brigitte Nielsen back in the day. In most of them, she was a southern sheriff or prison warden.

[TinyEvel]

I had a lot of impure thoughts about Brigitte Nielsen back in the day. In most of them, she was a southern sheriff or prison warden.

Yeah but then older when she was dating Flavor Flav on that TV show -- Yeeks!

Time was not kind.

[Rain Man]

Yeah but then older when she was dating Flavor Flav on that TV show -- Yeeks!

Time was not kind.

This is why I don't go to rap TV shows.

[Red Dawg]

Mark G is a dufuss and looking pretty damn pathetic caring so much about a sack that happened so long ago that nobody cares about but him.

[neech]

Farve went home and doubled his security and sleeps with a shot gun between his legs after that exchange.

[Fishels]

Cringe

[Rain Man]

Farve went home and doubled his security and sleeps with a shot gun between his legs after that exchange.

And then he sent photos of the shotgun to female reporters.

[TheGuardian]

He didn't get owned lol. That shit was cringe as ****.

22 years later? 22 years later you're gonna approach Favre, crying about you want your sack back, as if Favre could change the record books even if he wanted to.

Why didn't you make your voice heard at the time, instead of hugging on Strahan?

This is just dumb.


Besides, if everyone knows that Favre took a dive for Strahan, if YOU believe that, then you know you're still the true record holder. There's no asterisk, or "yeah but" associated with your record.

Dude just came off wierd as **** out in public crying about shit that supposedly happened over 2 decades ago.

TJ Watt broke your record too bro. You gonna cry to him about how he had a longer season?

Records are made to be broken champ. Like your little heart, apparently.

We usually butt heads on here WC, but this was very well said.

[threebag]

Owned? I'm not sure what I could call that other than pathetic.

It’s because OP gets owned all the time. It’s his reality of getting owned, such a beta.


I was waiting for Gastineau to tackle him right there LMAO. It was a cringy exchange.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Brett is a crusader for CTE stuff now, and it sounds to me like he actually feels for the guy. Brett has been a trash individual on many occasions, but on this stuff he seems pretty legit and passionate.

[JimNasium]

Am I the only one that thought Gastineau was dead?

[srvy]

He's not wrong, even though he's a douche. I remember watching it live at the time and calling bullshit. It was obvious it was staged. With that said, Gastineau looks like death warmed over. He needs to get a hobby, other than pounding Old Crow.

Parkinson's and Dementia are a pretty bad combo.

[stevieray]

Gastineau is the player who started "celebrating" after making a play.

[Otter]

Gastineau looked pathetic.

[Otter]

Brett is a crusader for CTE stuff now, and it sounds to me like he actually feels for the guy. Brett has been a trash individual on many occasions, but on this stuff he seems pretty legit and passionate.

Serious question: where does Farve get the bad reputation from? Any incidents you or anyone can point out?

I'm not challenging or defending but I've never heard or seen him do any other NFL athlete hasn't done and for the shit he grabs here you would think he robbed a charity or something.

[srvy]

That really boils it down to the bottom

And guess what Mark, Strahans cards aren't worth diddly squat either

Yep
Sounds like Mark took dives in his boxing career after football LOL

"TV newsmagazine show 60 Minutes interviewed several others that fought Gastineau and were told to take dives to make Gastineau look good. His career ended in 1996 when he lost to another former football player, Alonzo Highsmith. In 18 career bouts, his record in boxing was 15 wins, two losses, and one no-contest."

[InChiefsHeaven]

Serious question: where does Farve get the bad reputation from? Any incidents you or anyone can point out?

I'm not challenging or defending but I've never heard or seen him do any other NFL athlete hasn't done and for the shit he grabs here you would think he robbed a charity or something.

He robbed a charity. Seriously:


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/brett-favre-scandal-explained-ex-nfl-qb-is-accused-of-misusing-of-mississippi-state-welfare-funds/

Also, the dick pics thing, which was just gross.

[Otter]

He robbed a charity. Seriously:


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/brett-favre-scandal-explained-ex-nfl-qb-is-accused-of-misusing-of-mississippi-state-welfare-funds/

Also, the dick pics thing, which was just gross.

Well damn, I was just being sarcastic and imaginative when I 'made up' the charity scenario.

Understand.

[KCUnited]

Am I the only one that thought Gastineau was dead?

Depends on what criteria we are using to define dead

[Womble]

And then he sent photos of the shotgun to female reporters.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/26/38/07/2638074e3e6c96ffc757e8c353f15ccb.jpg

[htismaqe]

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/26/38/07/2638074e3e6c96ffc757e8c353f15ccb.jpg

Wait. Are we talking about Brett Farve or Rex Ryan?

[scho63]

Depends on what criteria we are using to define dead

He was brain dead a long time ago.

[Rain Man]

...

I was waiting for Gastineau to tackle him right there LMAO. It was a cringy exchange.

That's definitely what it sounded like to me. I thought for sure that Gastineau was going to tackle Favre right there.

They might have had to call Favre in the grasp, though. Gastineau is a lot bigger, but I can't see him actually bringing Favre to the ground given what they look like in that exchange.

Gastineau was one of the most annoying players of his era. I ranked him right up there with Lyle Alzado and Howie Long and Lester Hayes. None of those guys had a single redeeming quality.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Classic Clay to see this and think Favre was the one who got owned LMAO

(I don't like Favre either BTW)

[penguinz]

JFC Clay you are such a drama queen. No one got owned. Only thing to come from that video was proof that CTE is real.

[CapsLockKey]

Favre missed a great clapback when he asked for his sack back.

"Why are you asking me? You need talk to Jo Ann about that."

[Mecca]

If only Gastineau had something like you stole my record like you stole money from poor people to build a volleyball gym.