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Old 01-14-2004, 08:19 AM  
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Guess what? Gretz call us classless and deranged

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An Act of Supreme Loyalty
1/14/2004 6:17 AM

The columnists dissect the 2003 season and take a look at what's ahead for the Chiefs in '04. Read it here in a series of columns beginning next week.


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By Bob Gretz
January 14, 2004 (morning)--Last year, Dick Vermeil showed his loyalty to Greg Robinson by retaining him on his coaching staff.

Robinson paid back that loyalty on Tuesday by resigning as the defensive coordinator of the Chiefs.

It was an extraordinary act by Robinson. He put aside ego, all pretense and he fell on his sword for Dick Vermeil. Team and Vermeil came ahead of himself. No small wonder why the head coach was so emotional when he talked about Robinson and why he felt like he let his assistant down.

In more than 25 years of covering the NFL, Iíve never witnessed anything that came close to Tuesdayís morning gathering. The raw emotion was unforgettable. It was a window into the world that Vermeil has created with his football team. It was a window into the world of coaching and all the twists and turns that make the business so exciting and so heart breaking.

First, Robinson did the right thing in offering to resign. Secondly, Vermeil did the right thing in accepting. After everything that happened with the Chiefs in 2003, the focus was entirely on Robinson and the defense. It would have been impossible for this organization to make enough changes in other areas to overcome the negativity that would have surrounded Robinsonís further employment.

Thereís no question the defense was broken. Robinson and the defensive staff tried their best, but in the end it did not come together on the field. Last year, Robinson was handicapped by a defense that had few talented players. This season, the talent level was improved, but it still wasnít enough.

What was missing was a defensive mind-set thatís absolutely imperative to success in the NFL. Yes, football today is more complicated than it was years ago. Defenses must react to offenses, they must take part in the chess game.

But they must do it with an attitude that was seldom evident around the Chiefs defense. It was never there in 2002, showed itself early in 2003, but then disappeared, returning just briefly for the Chicago game. For that, the players, Robinson, the defensive staff and Vermeil must share the blame.

Beyond scheme, beyond talent, what this Chiefs defensive unit needs is an infusion of passion. When Vermeil picks Robinsonís successor, thatís should be the most important part of his resume.

There are many people celebrating Robinsonís departure, reveling in kicking a man when heís down, laughing at the raw emotion he was willing to share on what was probably the worst day of his professional life. If you are one of those people, like the classless folks who started a web site to promote the firing of Robinson, please seek help. You believe the success of the team is more important to you, than the people who give their blood, sweat and tears each and every day to make it work. You are deranged and can not a hold a candle to a man like Robinson.

Anybody who witnessed what happened at Arrowhead Stadium on Tuesday morning should now have a better understanding of what the people who coach in this business put on the line. They donít always get it right, they donít always produce.
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:17 AM   #46
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:19 AM   #47
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:20 AM   #48
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Nice avatar, Talisman. I'm curious what it would've been during your "Robinson sucks" days.
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:21 AM   #49
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When Bob Gretz has to work 40+ hours a week at a job he despises instead of getting paid to do something that most of us can only dream about, his analysis will actually mean something to Bob Dole.

We spend our hard earned dollars and emotions to support a team. We're the team's customer whether Bobby G. likes it or not. And as with any customer, we've got every right to bitch about poor service when that's what we're provided.

And we're entitled to do it without some hired ass-clown calling us "classless."

Amen to that...give yourself a rep B_D_D
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:21 AM   #50
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:21 AM   #51
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Bob Dole wonders whether it would be classless if one of Bob Gretz's chins set up a website... Rumor is that Bobby's second chin feels that the first and third chins get preferential treatment.
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:22 AM   #52
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Following up on Bob Dole's excellent commentary....

Does Bob Gretz allow the same courtesy of the common Waiter providing the slowest service in the restaruant, and giving him half a plate of nasty food?
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:23 AM   #53
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I would agree. I think the second chin kind of gets lost in the middle sometimes.
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:31 AM   #54
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Gretz is a moron. If he believes that the success of the team is more important to the mercenaries who routinely switch loyalties based on who's signing their paycheck than it is to fans who have voluntarily agonized over the team for DECADES, then Gretz needs help. What a clueless columnist.

Maybe he should forego his paycheck for a while to rediscover his passion for the team. Or maybe he should just go get paid to write for another team.
Well put Kevin.

Can someone put Gretz's quote followed by Kevin's and BDD's comments up on the FireGRob website?
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:33 AM   #55
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:34 AM   #56
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I have composed and sent an elegant and gentle note in consideration of my feelings on his latest artical. I eagerly await his response.
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:35 AM   #57
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I have composed and sent an elegant and gentle note in consideration of my feelings on his latest artical. I eagerly await his response.
Do post it for all the world to see...
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:37 AM   #58
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I don't know why everybody's so upset about being called deranged. I'm deranged and I damn well know it. This is my story.

In 1995, my team dominated the NFL and won the SuperBowl.

In 1997, my team dominated the NFL and won the SuperBowl.

In 2003, my team dominated the NFL and won the SuperBowl.

Oh. Wait. No. They. Didn't. They lost their first ****ing playoff game..... at home..... instead.


We need to seek help? WE ALREADY HAVE. DR. PHIL CAN'T EVEN HEAL THESE WOUNDS. WOULD YOU LIKE MY THERAPY BILL, MR. GRETZ?

I'm feeling much better now. Thanks for reading my opinion.
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:52 AM   #59
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http://www.kcchiefs.com/news_article...RNYVT5ZWBXRP4A

An Act of Supreme Loyalty
1/14/2004 6:17 AM

The columnists dissect the 2003 season and take a look at what's ahead for the Chiefs in '04. Read it here in a series of columns beginning next week.


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By Bob Gretz
January 14, 2004 (morning)--

If you are one of those people, like the classless folks who started a web site to promote the firing of Robinson, please seek help. You believe the success of the team is more important to you, than the people who give their blood, sweat and tears each and every day to make it work. You are deranged and can not a hold a candle to a man like Robinson.
Obviously someone else believes the success of the team is more important. And that person is GROB who did the right thing just like the people who put up the web site did what was best for the team and everyone including GROB knew it.

That's not classless that's just the way it is and if you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen. A lot of these people who write about how hard it is to resign when you are not successful need a reality check. I mean what world are they in upside down world?

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Old 01-14-2004, 10:01 AM   #60
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