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Old 07-26-2014, 11:10 PM  
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Federal judge rules DC ban on gun carry rights unconstitutional

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WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Saturday overturned the Washington, D.C., ban on carrying handguns outside the home, saying it was unconstitutional.

“There is no longer any basis on which this court can conclude that the District of Columbia’s total ban on the public carrying of ready-to-use handguns outside the home is constitutional under any level of scrutiny,” said Judge Frederick J. Scullin Jr. of the District of Columbia District Court.

“Therefore, the court finds that the District of Columbia’s complete ban on the carrying of handguns in public is unconstitutional,” he added in his 19-page ruling on the case, Palmer v. District of Columbia, which has been dragging on for five years.

The court ordered the city to allow residents to carry handguns outside their homes and to let nonresidents carry them as well.

In 2008, the Supreme Court struck down the District of Columbia’s all-out ban on handguns on the basis that it violated the right to bear arms guaranteed by the Constitution’s Second Amendment. An appeals court in 2011 required handguns to be registered.

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Old 07-26-2014, 11:16 PM   #2
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Thanks for the update! I brought this up to Cave a short time ago about how the local DC left wingers were flaunting Fed laws to craft bogus and easily dismissible local gun laws. He was unaware this was occurring so I'm glad I could educate him:

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Old 07-26-2014, 11:24 PM   #3
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It sure seems like all of the issues are going the wrong way. And then you have the gun issue bucking that trend and actually moving in the right direction. It boggles the mind. But, if I'm only going to win one battle, the battle over the 2nd Amendment is the one I want to be winning.
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Old 07-26-2014, 11:32 PM   #4
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It sure seems like all of the issues are going the wrong way. And then you have the gun issue bucking that trend and actually moving in the right direction. It boggles the mind. But, if I'm only going to win one battle, the battle over the 2nd Amendment is the one I want to be winning.
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Old 07-26-2014, 11:40 PM   #5
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Old 07-27-2014, 10:25 AM   #6
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It sure seems like all of the issues are going the wrong way. And then you have the gun issue bucking that trend and actually moving in the right direction. It boggles the mind. But, if I'm only going to win one battle, the battle over the 2nd Amendment is the one I want to be winning.
Not over immigration. Oh by the way, Hispanics are the #1 pro gun-control demo in the USA. So if you care about gun rights, you'll also care about immigration.
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:06 PM   #7
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It sure seems like all of the issues are going the wrong way. And then you have the gun issue bucking that trend and actually moving in the right direction. It boggles the mind. But, if I'm only going to win one battle, the battle over the 2nd Amendment is the one I want to be winning.
I agree.
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:23 PM   #9
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Not over immigration. Oh by the way, Hispanics are the #1 pro gun-control demo in the USA. So if you care about gun rights, you'll also care about immigration.
I care about a lot of things, including immigration. The Second Amendment battle is still priority number one in my book.
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Old 07-27-2014, 10:45 PM   #10
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I care about a lot of things, including immigration. The Second Amendment battle is still priority number one in my book.
Yep. They take away the guns we're done. Even if you're not a gun owner you need to support it, the criminals will always have guns.
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I follow your point but the fact Hispanics so strongly support gun control should concern you
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:44 PM   #12
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So it's obvious to me that Americans, as a group, are far more passionate about owning firearms than are people from other countries. Other nations - even other large, colonial nations with a European background - have banned firearms entirely, but to even suggest limiting them in America causes vocal and active opposition that other countries just don't generate. As an open question to the crowd, why do you suppose that is? What makes us so different?

The easy answer is that we have the Second Amendment, but that begs the response that we actually have (or still have) the Second Amendment because we have a communal love of guns, not the other way around.
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:47 PM   #13
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We instinctively believe in our ability and right to defend ourselves. We enjoy shooting guns. We don't like the idea of giving our rights away.

And yeah. We ain't Europe.
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So it's obvious to me that Americans, as a group, are far more passionate about owning firearms than are people from other countries. Other nations - even other large, colonial nations with a European background - have banned firearms entirely, but to even suggest limiting them in America causes vocal and active opposition that other countries just don't generate. As an open question to the crowd, why do you suppose that is? What makes us so different?

The easy answer is that we have the Second Amendment, but that begs the response that we actually have (or still have) the Second Amendment because we have a communal love of guns, not the other way around.
I don't know I just always thought it had something to do with how we won our Independence.
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Old 07-29-2014, 02:51 PM   #15
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It's not like DC wasn't already suffering some gun violence.

The only people this really even affects are those who already follow the law. Why in the hell Shouldn't they be allowed protection, especially in crime ridden shitholes like DC. I'm told the ghettos have crime too.
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