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Old 07-07-2014, 03:00 PM  
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Richard George Kopf is a federal judge in Nebraska's U.S. District Court. He was appointed by George H.W. Bush in 1992, and he's been running a personal blog called Hercules and the Umpire for about a year. In one recent post, he told the Supreme Court to shut the **** up.

The closing of the post, titled "Remembering Alexander Bickel's passive virtues and the Hobby Lobby cases," reads:

Next term is the time for the Supreme Court to go quiescent–this term and several past terms has proven that the Court is now causing more harm (division) to our democracy than good by deciding hot button cases that the Court has the power to avoid. As the kids says, it is time for the Court to stfu.

Kopf links to an Urban Dictionary definition in case his meaning isn't clear.

1) Acronym used for the phrase "shut the **** up" for efficiency reasons.

Please stfu because I am trying to read.

The judge takes issue with the Court's decision to hear the Hobby Lobby case at all, arguing that it should ignore very controversial cases when it can. He elaborates:

The Hobby Lobby cases illustrate why the Court ought to care more about Alexander Bickel's "passive virtues"–that is, not deciding highly controversial cases (most of the time) if the Court can avoid the dispute.** What would have happened if the Supreme Court simply decided not to take the Hobby Lobby cases? What harm would have befallen the nation? What harm would have befallen Hobby Lobby family members who would have been free to express their religious beliefs as real persons? Had the Court sat on the sidelines, I don't think any significant harm would have occurred. The most likely result is that one or more of the political branches of government would have worked something out. Or not. In any event, out of well over 300 million people, who would have cared if the law in different Circuits was different or the ACA's contraception mandate was up in the air?

Anyone who disagrees can gtfo, tbh.
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Old 07-08-2014, 06:58 AM   #31
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and those 5 black-robed demigods have in nearly all cases been the 5 republican appointees, and those 5 have been in the majority for 45 years now...

it does more than undermine the court's moral authority, i think it tends to put the state of the law in flux because someday there will be a liberal majority and all those cases could in theory be reversed...

and i think all of the expansions of corporate personhood will be scrapped, together with citizens united...

but then i'm sometimes an optimist...
Let's hope you're wrong.
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:05 AM   #32
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They won't be though. If such a thing were easy, Roe v. Wade would be history by now. None of this is going to be erased. It's all baked in...
My concern with this is that conservative judges seem to me to be more self-constrained by precedent than liberal judges. But I hope you're right.

Even more, I hope we don't have to experience a majority liberal court any time soon. 2016 is important.
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:06 AM   #33
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Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc., is a religious organization?
Yes.
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:13 AM   #34
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Has Hobby Lobby ever even taken communion?
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:14 AM   #35
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Has Hobby Lobby ever even taken communion?
I doubt it. I don't even know how such a thing could happen. Why do you ask?
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:23 AM   #36
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The court having moral authority———>

No wonder progs love judicial activism, they want things to be decided according to what is good or fair based on their values—not the Constitution or law.

Boy is that a revealing statement. That made my day!
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:24 AM   #37
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And at what point did denying healthcare to women become so fundamental to Christianity? Man, that ought to be offensive to the Christians out there.
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:35 AM   #38
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I guess if my boss is a Mormon, I won't be able to use my paycheck to buy coffee. Bummer, but that's how free exercise of religion works: the boss gets to enforce his morality on his employees. Otherwise he's being oppressed!
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:36 AM   #39
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And at what point did denying healthcare to women become so fundamental to Christianity? Man, that ought to be offensive to the Christians out there.
It's not about denying healthcare to a Christian's view. It's that no man has a right to take a human life--let alone pay someone to do it. That violates that deeply held conviction and you're asking them to be an accomplice in that act. You may not agree it's a human life, but you need to quite distorting their claim Trolly.
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I guess if my boss is a Mormon, I won't be able to use my paycheck to buy coffee. Bummer, but that's how free exercise of religion works: the boss gets to enforce his morality on his employees. Otherwise he's being oppressed!
Apparently, you didn't read the decision. Or do you just like displaying your ignorance?
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The court having moral authority———>

No wonder progs love judicial activism, they want things to be decided according to what is good or fair based on their values—not the Constitution or law.

Boy is that a revealing statement. That made my day!
"Moral authority" might not mean what you seem to think it means. The court doesn't have an army at it's disposal. The only authority it has, even if it's basing it's decisions on the conservative fundamentals set forth in the constitution, is that which people are willing to agree that it has. To the extent that it comes to be perceived as just another political body that makes decisions based on the personal political beliefs of it's Justices, that authority is undermined.
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And at what point did denying healthcare to women become so fundamental to Christianity? Man, that ought to be offensive to the Christians out there.
Hobby Lobby isn't denying healthcare of any type to women or anyone else.
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I guess if my boss is a Mormon, I won't be able to use my paycheck to buy coffee. Bummer, but that's how free exercise of religion works: the boss gets to enforce his morality on his employees. Otherwise he's being oppressed!
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I guess if my boss is a Mormon, I won't be able to use my paycheck to buy coffee. Bummer, but that's how free exercise of religion works: the boss gets to enforce his morality on his employees. Otherwise he's being oppressed!
Did Congress pass a law requiring your boss to buy you coffee?
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I guess if my boss is a Mormon, I won't be able to use my paycheck to buy coffee. Bummer, but that's how free exercise of religion works: the boss gets to enforce his morality on his employees. Otherwise he's being oppressed!
Yep, that's what it means. Watch out. It's going to be chaos.
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