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Old 02-20-2014, 01:21 PM  
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2014 NFL Combine schedule: TV channel, online streaming, invite list, workouts and more
By Matt Conner
on Feb 20 2014, 10:12a

he road to the NFL Draft is longer in 2014 than any other offseason given the league's decision to push it back a few weeks to May 8-10. For the next three months, draftniks will circle around prospects like hawks, analyzing their every move and weighing the pros and cons of each player.

The process starts en masse this week with the start of the 2014 NFL Combine in Indianapolis. If you love the Draft, then this is a big week for you.

For those who are new to the NFL Combine, it's a seven-day event broken up into four-day shifts for each position group (quarterbacks to punters). Each group comes to Indy for four days to meet with representatives from each NFL team for medical assessments, interviews and a number of workouts. It's termed the Underwear Olympics for that reason, as teams fall in and out of love with prospects based on 40-yard dash times and vertical leaps.

The quick guide to the CombineNow that you have the basics, let's dive into a little more what's going down this week in Indianapolis.

The Combine workout schedule

Here are the days the actual workouts for each position group:

Saturday, Feb. 22: Tight Ends, Offensive Linemen, Special Teams

Sunday, Feb.23: Quarterbacks, Running Backs, Wide Receivers

Monday, Feb. 24: Defensive Line, Linebackers

Tuesday, Feb. 25: Defensive Backs

There are four groups of players arriving as shown above. Each group has four days of events.

Day 1: Travel to Indianapolis* ~ Registration ~ Hospital Pre-Exam & X-rays ~ Orientation ~ Interviews

Day 2: Measurements ~ Medical Examinations ~ Media ~ Interviews

Day 3: NFLPA Meeting ~ Psychological Testing ~ PK/ST Workout ~ Bench Press ~ Interviews

Day 4: On-Field Workout (timing, stations, skill drills) ~ Departure from Indianapolis

With the first arrivals coming on Wednesday, that puts the first day of workouts on Saturday.

The players invited

Every top college football player will likely be in attendance in Indianapolis, even if some of the top athletes won't participate in the workouts. The NFL invited over 300 players to attend. Teddy Bridgewater to Jadeveon Clowney, your favorite college players will likely be there.

Who is eligible to be invited to the Combine? Basically, seniors without college eligibility left and those who have declared early.

And how are players selected to the Combine? Read this:

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Participants are determined annually by a Selection Committee. The Directors of both National and BLESTO scouting services, which combined represent twenty-five NFL teams, are joined by members of various NFL player personnel departments to form the committee. The participating NFL executives can rotate on a yearly basis, and remain anonymous. ALL eligible players are reviewed and voted on by the committee members. Each athlete receiving the necessary number of votes, by position, is then extended an invitation. While it is not a perfect science, the goal of the committee is to invite every player that will be drafted in the ensuing NFL Draft.
You can find the full list of players expected to attend at the bottom of this post. While the list is comprehensive, there are a few players every year who are drafted but didn't get invited to the Combine.

The workouts

The most important one is not a workout -- it's the interview. Teams will have the opportunity to interview players where they'll get about 15 minutes with them. With so little time, the questions have to be precise and all have a purpose.

The second most important item there is getting the medical check-up -- essentially confirming that the player is healthy or checking out previous injuries. Team doctors will want this information so the GMs and coaches can make an informed decision.

Some of the other workouts, via Big Blue View:

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40-yard dash: Measures straight line speed over a distance. Not very important for non-skill position players, but coming from the 40-yard dash is the "10-yard split." That is the time it takes to travel the first 10 yards of the event and gives a measurement as to the player's explosion and first step. Very important for defensive and offensive linemen. Dontari Poe had a 10-yard split of 1.7 at 330 pounds, which is decent for a linebacker.Bruce Irvin at 235 pounds had a 10-yard split of 1.57, which is a good number for a defensive back. Both help push those players into the middle of the first round.

Bench press: Fairly simple, it measures upper body strength. Moreso it shows if you have stayed in good condition over the offseason. Poor numbers here possibly indicate not working hard enough.

Vertical and Broad jump: Another measurement of explosion and lower body strength. Also important for wide receivers and defensive backs to show off their leaping ability.

3-cone drill: Essentially a change of direction drill. Most important for skill position players. Shows off lateral agility and ability to accelerate out of a turn. One of the drills that translates best on the field. A good score in the 3 cone is often a marker for a high draft pick.

20/60-yard shuttles: Shows the ability to come to a complete stop and accelerate. Obviously important for any position and a good score here is indicative of explosion and body control. As you can see, explosion is a big factor here and one that the NFL is keen to see.

Position-specific drills: Each position has specific drills that test for many different attributes. Change of direction and hip swing for defensive backs, hands skills for wide receivers during the "gauntlet," kick slide drills for the offensive linemen, power for the defensive linemen in hitting bag drills and accuracy for quarterbacks in throwing drills.
How do I watch the Combine?

NFL Network will televise some of it.

NFL.com will stream the action.

KCChiefs.com will have full video of Andy Reid and John Dorsey's press conferences but will not stream them live.
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:25 AM   #631
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Good DB group so far. Gosh damn this draft is deep. Can we take all of them?
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Old 02-25-2014, 10:27 AM   #632
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I wonder who takes Logan Thomas. I have a weird feeling like we will, but if I had to put money on it, I'd say New Orleans.
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Old 02-25-2014, 10:53 AM   #633
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I like these 40-yard dash simulcasts. Before watching, who do you think wins the race: Cam Newton, Colin Kaepernick, or Jadeveon Clowney?

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Old 02-25-2014, 12:22 PM   #634
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whoever does the nfl.com player grades should be fired immediately. going through the list.

jase amaro-5.4-nfl backup or has special teams potential.

ASJ- 5.5- chance to become an nfl starter.

Aaron donald 5.35-nfl backup or has special teams potential.

Timmy jernigan 5.6- has a chance to become an nfl starter. sapp said yesterday he'll make an immediate impact, and he's the best college DT he's seen in the past 5 years atleast.

louis nix 5.9 has a chance to become an nfl starter.

wtf lol.
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:13 PM   #635
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whoever does the nfl.com player grades should be fired immediately. going through the list.

jase amaro-5.4-nfl backup or has special teams potential.

ASJ- 5.5- chance to become an nfl starter.

Aaron donald 5.35-nfl backup or has special teams potential.

Timmy jernigan 5.6- has a chance to become an nfl starter. sapp said yesterday he'll make an immediate impact, and he's the best college DT he's seen in the past 5 years atleast.

louis nix 5.9 has a chance to become an nfl starter.

wtf lol.
Not everyone buys into the Underwear Olympics as a stand alone decider.

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Old 02-25-2014, 02:47 PM   #636
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Not everyone buys into the Underwear Olympics as a stand alone decider.
i'm assuming you haven't seen a single person I've mentioned play a single snap...
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Old 02-25-2014, 02:56 PM   #637
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i'm assuming you haven't seen a single person I've mentioned play a single snap...
We both seem to be assuming, then.

I"m not saying the grader is right about any, or all, of them. I'm assuming you're ignoring the negatives involved with those players. It's not as if they're all locks.
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:05 PM   #638
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We both seem to be assuming, then.

I'm assuming you're ignoring the negatives involved with those players.
not ignoring the negatives at all...and I expect most of them to "fail" (not living up to their 1st round pick). that is the nature of the game. only so many guys can be at the very top... that being said though, staking them with a rating like "chance to become an nfl starter" and "chance to become a backup or a special teams player" when four of those guys are nearly guaranteed to go in the first round is lunacy. how many players get drafted in the first round, and never start? I wouldn't guess very many.
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and I assumed you hadn't seen them play, because I assumed you thought the ratings were worthy, as if the guys were combine warriors without any field play. which isn't the case. I would be fine with a label like that on a guy like a kelvin Benjamin who constantly drops balls, and has only had one good season. but on a guy like Donald with 2 11 sack seasons as a DT, who also turned in a good combine, they could show him a little more love than "could become a starter or a special teams player. regardless of him being an inch or two short, and little underweight.
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Not everyone buys into the Underwear Olympics as a stand alone decider.
Jace Amaro was one of the most productive college TE's ever this past season. If anything, the combine hurt him...
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IMO, Amaro will thrive in a role similar to Hernandez but will struggle if forced to play like an in-line TE.
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IMO, Amaro will thrive in a role similar to Hernandez...
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Jace Amaro was one of the most productive college TE's ever this past season. If anything, the combine hurt him...
I agree, but he was not the only one on the list. All I was really trying to get across is that one man's take on a few players doesn't invalidate his take on all of them. Everyone was in love with Amaro, to look at your example. Then he did the combine. That poor showing doesn't mean he won't make it in the NFL, but it actually gives fuel to the NFL.com guy's analysis.


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