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Old 02-20-2014, 12:21 PM  
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2014 NFL Combine schedule: TV channel, online streaming, invite list, workouts and more
By Matt Conner
on Feb 20 2014, 10:12a

he road to the NFL Draft is longer in 2014 than any other offseason given the league's decision to push it back a few weeks to May 8-10. For the next three months, draftniks will circle around prospects like hawks, analyzing their every move and weighing the pros and cons of each player.

The process starts en masse this week with the start of the 2014 NFL Combine in Indianapolis. If you love the Draft, then this is a big week for you.

For those who are new to the NFL Combine, it's a seven-day event broken up into four-day shifts for each position group (quarterbacks to punters). Each group comes to Indy for four days to meet with representatives from each NFL team for medical assessments, interviews and a number of workouts. It's termed the Underwear Olympics for that reason, as teams fall in and out of love with prospects based on 40-yard dash times and vertical leaps.

The quick guide to the CombineNow that you have the basics, let's dive into a little more what's going down this week in Indianapolis.

The Combine workout schedule

Here are the days the actual workouts for each position group:

Saturday, Feb. 22: Tight Ends, Offensive Linemen, Special Teams

Sunday, Feb.23: Quarterbacks, Running Backs, Wide Receivers

Monday, Feb. 24: Defensive Line, Linebackers

Tuesday, Feb. 25: Defensive Backs

There are four groups of players arriving as shown above. Each group has four days of events.

Day 1: Travel to Indianapolis* ~ Registration ~ Hospital Pre-Exam & X-rays ~ Orientation ~ Interviews

Day 2: Measurements ~ Medical Examinations ~ Media ~ Interviews

Day 3: NFLPA Meeting ~ Psychological Testing ~ PK/ST Workout ~ Bench Press ~ Interviews

Day 4: On-Field Workout (timing, stations, skill drills) ~ Departure from Indianapolis

With the first arrivals coming on Wednesday, that puts the first day of workouts on Saturday.

The players invited

Every top college football player will likely be in attendance in Indianapolis, even if some of the top athletes won't participate in the workouts. The NFL invited over 300 players to attend. Teddy Bridgewater to Jadeveon Clowney, your favorite college players will likely be there.

Who is eligible to be invited to the Combine? Basically, seniors without college eligibility left and those who have declared early.

And how are players selected to the Combine? Read this:

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Participants are determined annually by a Selection Committee. The Directors of both National and BLESTO scouting services, which combined represent twenty-five NFL teams, are joined by members of various NFL player personnel departments to form the committee. The participating NFL executives can rotate on a yearly basis, and remain anonymous. ALL eligible players are reviewed and voted on by the committee members. Each athlete receiving the necessary number of votes, by position, is then extended an invitation. While it is not a perfect science, the goal of the committee is to invite every player that will be drafted in the ensuing NFL Draft.
You can find the full list of players expected to attend at the bottom of this post. While the list is comprehensive, there are a few players every year who are drafted but didn't get invited to the Combine.

The workouts

The most important one is not a workout -- it's the interview. Teams will have the opportunity to interview players where they'll get about 15 minutes with them. With so little time, the questions have to be precise and all have a purpose.

The second most important item there is getting the medical check-up -- essentially confirming that the player is healthy or checking out previous injuries. Team doctors will want this information so the GMs and coaches can make an informed decision.

Some of the other workouts, via Big Blue View:

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40-yard dash: Measures straight line speed over a distance. Not very important for non-skill position players, but coming from the 40-yard dash is the "10-yard split." That is the time it takes to travel the first 10 yards of the event and gives a measurement as to the player's explosion and first step. Very important for defensive and offensive linemen. Dontari Poe had a 10-yard split of 1.7 at 330 pounds, which is decent for a linebacker.Bruce Irvin at 235 pounds had a 10-yard split of 1.57, which is a good number for a defensive back. Both help push those players into the middle of the first round.

Bench press: Fairly simple, it measures upper body strength. Moreso it shows if you have stayed in good condition over the offseason. Poor numbers here possibly indicate not working hard enough.

Vertical and Broad jump: Another measurement of explosion and lower body strength. Also important for wide receivers and defensive backs to show off their leaping ability.

3-cone drill: Essentially a change of direction drill. Most important for skill position players. Shows off lateral agility and ability to accelerate out of a turn. One of the drills that translates best on the field. A good score in the 3 cone is often a marker for a high draft pick.

20/60-yard shuttles: Shows the ability to come to a complete stop and accelerate. Obviously important for any position and a good score here is indicative of explosion and body control. As you can see, explosion is a big factor here and one that the NFL is keen to see.

Position-specific drills: Each position has specific drills that test for many different attributes. Change of direction and hip swing for defensive backs, hands skills for wide receivers during the "gauntlet," kick slide drills for the offensive linemen, power for the defensive linemen in hitting bag drills and accuracy for quarterbacks in throwing drills.
How do I watch the Combine?

NFL Network will televise some of it.

NFL.com will stream the action.

KCChiefs.com will have full video of Andy Reid and John Dorsey's press conferences but will not stream them live.
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:34 PM   #571
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I still have the feeling that we are taking WR first. I think they know that WR is by far the best player available in rd 1. All of those guys are better than the DL at 23 except possibly Donald.
WR will be an immediate playmaker and they need that after not drafting flashy players last year that played.

Our WR core is a top 3 weakness on the team. Easy decision to take Beckham, Cooks or Lee. Too much talent to possibly pass up there.
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:35 PM   #572
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:35 PM   #573
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Yeah. And I'm saying we need a pass rush specialist far more than we need a 5-tech. Plenty of those to ba had in FA. Donald is the only one whom I can see as a player who can come in and force Manning and Rivers off of their launch points and, therefore, directly and positively affect our pass defense by disrupting the timing in the pocket.
ok. valid point (i'm not trying to be condescending, just agreeing with you).

I personally would go about it by trying to find some depth at OLB. Hali is getting older and his contract is large. Houston is on his last contract yr. We saw how the pass rush was effected when they were injured. I would want someone who can come in and provide depth at that position, and that individual should still be able to do what you are wanting to do (i.e. pass rush).

That OLB can be a role player who has the ability to eventually be a full time starter. I personally dont see Aaron Donald as a fulltime starter in a 3-4 defense. He doesnt have the length I'm looking for at DE or OLB, IMO.
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:38 PM   #574
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We do need to start looking for halis replacement, but you are looking for more pass rush from the DL right now.

I also don't think you necessarily are always gonna get a full time starter at the end of the first round, or at least in his first year.
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:39 PM   #575
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We need a pass rusher from the 5 tech or the 3 tech.


(Sheldon Richardson would have done it )
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:42 PM   #576
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That picture shows the chiefs rushing 6 defensive players. Houston/Hali from the edge. TJ, Poe, devito in the interior, and DJ blitzing.
Wrong.

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The chiefs cant regularly rush that many players because it exposes the coverage.
No shit. It's a ****ing 46 with Berry replacing the Hali.




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OldSchool is advocating a 2 down lineman defense with Houston and Hali rushing. They tend not to lineup as a traditional 4 down lineman. In that case, other than DJ, the chiefs would send the remaining 6 players into coverage with dbs.
He isn't advocating anything. That's our basic "sub" alignment (2-3-6). Jesus, do you watch the ****ing games? Additionally, the last sentence is so pathetically ignorant, I don't know how to respond.


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Whoever is paired up with Poe as the only other down lineman would be responsible for alot of space and gaps.
A doctor who thinks "alot" is a word and doesn't understand football. ****ing fantastic. In addition, if you think Poe and the other down lineman are the only ones responsible for gaps, you need to get a copy of Gap Integrity for Mongoloids: The Extremely Simple Edition.



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I didnt realize that physicians are supposed to be experts in everything. I'll give you a little insight, we dont even know everything about that particular subject (medicine). that's why its called a "practice of medicine" or "medical practice."
Well, that's incredibly insightful. Since you aren't even remotely knowledgeable about this subject, you should probably shut the **** up and prevent others from having to read your insane drivel.


****, there is a ridiculous amount of stupidity on this board lately.
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:43 PM   #577
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We need a pass rusher from the 5 tech or the 3 tech.


(Sheldon Richardson would have done it )
But that also doesn't require one being drafted in the 1st round. If it so happens that it's BPA....then go ahead....
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But that also doesn't require one being drafted in the 1st round. If it so happens that it's BPA....then go ahead....
Agree
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I'm really hoping that a lot of QBs go early this year. We need as many players to get pushed down to us as possible.
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I'm really hoping that a lot of QBs go early this year. We need as many players to get pushed down to us as possible.
Or vice versa for a trade down
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I don't think we need to worry. There are over 40 players who are first rd talents this year. Plenty of good WR's and pass rushers will be there in early round 2
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4-3 players. The chiefs dont run that system. It sounds like you are advocating switching to that, and chiefs brass (dorsey) has recently gone on record stating that they are staying with the 3-4.

Holy ****ing surprise Batman, more idiocy! We don't align in an odd front exclusively even with our 3-4. Nobody does, not even Romeo. Because of that, we typically do have one of our defensive tackles aligning in a 3 in base personnel grouping (3-4). Which is the exact same position that those players Sir Robert mentioned play quite extensively.

Additionally, KC almost always uses a 1 and 3 tech from our sub package. Since the NFL is so geared towards passing, this 3 technique gets quite a few snaps. Crazy, I know!
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But that also doesn't require one being drafted in the 1st round. If it so happens that it's BPA....then go ahead....
Yeah, I want Will Clarke in the 4th, he was significantly faster than Ealy. Ealy has a bit better bend and change of direction due to the difference in height though.

Clarke: 4.77 40 time

Ealy: 4.91 40 time.

I can see Clarke adding 15-20 pounds and becoming a 5-tech with above average explosion. Needs work on his technique and improving his ability to turn the corner though, gets washed out too easily due to his height when he rushes around the edge. He does flash the strength and ability to use his length to dominate though.
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I don't think we need to worry. There are over 40 players who are first rd talents this year. Plenty of good WR's and pass rushers will be there in early round 2
Forgot who said it, but one of the analysts stated that he could slot as many as 45 players in the 1 st round this year.
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Wrong.
how so?
looking more closely I actually see 7 players rushing.



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He isn't advocating anything. That's our basic "sub" alignment (2-3-6).
I know that. Others have made it clear that he is advocating a hybrid 3-4/4-3.
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Jesus, do you watch the ****ing games?
I do, thanks for asking. Do you watch the games?

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Additionally, the last sentence is so pathetically ignorant, I don't know how to respond.
Having a lack of words is really going to make it difficult for you to get your point across on a message board.

Since this individual has a lack of words, can someone else enlighten me on what is ignorant about it? here is my statement below:

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They tend not to lineup as a traditional 4 down lineman. In that case, other than DJ, the chiefs would send the remaining 6 players into coverage with dbs.
Houston + Hali + Poe + DJ + down lineman = 5 players
11 defensive players on the field - 5 players mentioned = 6 remaining players.

Chiefs tend not to use other linebackers or lineman, which would only leave defensive backs (corners, safties). Seems pretty accurate to me.

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A doctor who thinks "alot" is a word
A lot. is that easier for you to understand?
That is a propoganda technique called, "nitpicking or splitting hairs"

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and doesn't understand football.
I dont have all the answers. I am here to learn. That is the benefit of a messageboard, to share ideas and gain understanding.

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In addition, if you think Poe and the other down lineman are the only ones responsible for gaps, you need to get a copy of Gap Integrity for Mongoloids: The Extremely Simple Edition.
when did I say that? this is a propoganda technique (or debating technique) called "putting words in others mouths", or "misleading inferences."
This can also be thought of "misrepresenting my position."

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Well, that's incredibly insightful. Since you aren't even remotely knowledgeable about this subject, you should probably shut the **** up and prevent others from having to read your insane drivel.
I disagree with your opinion. This is a propoganda technique called, "Ad hominen, or condescension"
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