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Old 02-20-2014, 01:21 PM  
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The Combine's Here, Bitch!

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2014 NFL Combine schedule: TV channel, online streaming, invite list, workouts and more
By Matt Conner
on Feb 20 2014, 10:12a

he road to the NFL Draft is longer in 2014 than any other offseason given the league's decision to push it back a few weeks to May 8-10. For the next three months, draftniks will circle around prospects like hawks, analyzing their every move and weighing the pros and cons of each player.

The process starts en masse this week with the start of the 2014 NFL Combine in Indianapolis. If you love the Draft, then this is a big week for you.

For those who are new to the NFL Combine, it's a seven-day event broken up into four-day shifts for each position group (quarterbacks to punters). Each group comes to Indy for four days to meet with representatives from each NFL team for medical assessments, interviews and a number of workouts. It's termed the Underwear Olympics for that reason, as teams fall in and out of love with prospects based on 40-yard dash times and vertical leaps.

The quick guide to the CombineNow that you have the basics, let's dive into a little more what's going down this week in Indianapolis.

The Combine workout schedule

Here are the days the actual workouts for each position group:

Saturday, Feb. 22: Tight Ends, Offensive Linemen, Special Teams

Sunday, Feb.23: Quarterbacks, Running Backs, Wide Receivers

Monday, Feb. 24: Defensive Line, Linebackers

Tuesday, Feb. 25: Defensive Backs

There are four groups of players arriving as shown above. Each group has four days of events.

Day 1: Travel to Indianapolis* ~ Registration ~ Hospital Pre-Exam & X-rays ~ Orientation ~ Interviews

Day 2: Measurements ~ Medical Examinations ~ Media ~ Interviews

Day 3: NFLPA Meeting ~ Psychological Testing ~ PK/ST Workout ~ Bench Press ~ Interviews

Day 4: On-Field Workout (timing, stations, skill drills) ~ Departure from Indianapolis

With the first arrivals coming on Wednesday, that puts the first day of workouts on Saturday.

The players invited

Every top college football player will likely be in attendance in Indianapolis, even if some of the top athletes won't participate in the workouts. The NFL invited over 300 players to attend. Teddy Bridgewater to Jadeveon Clowney, your favorite college players will likely be there.

Who is eligible to be invited to the Combine? Basically, seniors without college eligibility left and those who have declared early.

And how are players selected to the Combine? Read this:

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Participants are determined annually by a Selection Committee. The Directors of both National and BLESTO scouting services, which combined represent twenty-five NFL teams, are joined by members of various NFL player personnel departments to form the committee. The participating NFL executives can rotate on a yearly basis, and remain anonymous. ALL eligible players are reviewed and voted on by the committee members. Each athlete receiving the necessary number of votes, by position, is then extended an invitation. While it is not a perfect science, the goal of the committee is to invite every player that will be drafted in the ensuing NFL Draft.
You can find the full list of players expected to attend at the bottom of this post. While the list is comprehensive, there are a few players every year who are drafted but didn't get invited to the Combine.

The workouts

The most important one is not a workout -- it's the interview. Teams will have the opportunity to interview players where they'll get about 15 minutes with them. With so little time, the questions have to be precise and all have a purpose.

The second most important item there is getting the medical check-up -- essentially confirming that the player is healthy or checking out previous injuries. Team doctors will want this information so the GMs and coaches can make an informed decision.

Some of the other workouts, via Big Blue View:

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40-yard dash: Measures straight line speed over a distance. Not very important for non-skill position players, but coming from the 40-yard dash is the "10-yard split." That is the time it takes to travel the first 10 yards of the event and gives a measurement as to the player's explosion and first step. Very important for defensive and offensive linemen. Dontari Poe had a 10-yard split of 1.7 at 330 pounds, which is decent for a linebacker.Bruce Irvin at 235 pounds had a 10-yard split of 1.57, which is a good number for a defensive back. Both help push those players into the middle of the first round.

Bench press: Fairly simple, it measures upper body strength. Moreso it shows if you have stayed in good condition over the offseason. Poor numbers here possibly indicate not working hard enough.

Vertical and Broad jump: Another measurement of explosion and lower body strength. Also important for wide receivers and defensive backs to show off their leaping ability.

3-cone drill: Essentially a change of direction drill. Most important for skill position players. Shows off lateral agility and ability to accelerate out of a turn. One of the drills that translates best on the field. A good score in the 3 cone is often a marker for a high draft pick.

20/60-yard shuttles: Shows the ability to come to a complete stop and accelerate. Obviously important for any position and a good score here is indicative of explosion and body control. As you can see, explosion is a big factor here and one that the NFL is keen to see.

Position-specific drills: Each position has specific drills that test for many different attributes. Change of direction and hip swing for defensive backs, hands skills for wide receivers during the "gauntlet," kick slide drills for the offensive linemen, power for the defensive linemen in hitting bag drills and accuracy for quarterbacks in throwing drills.
How do I watch the Combine?

NFL Network will televise some of it.

NFL.com will stream the action.

KCChiefs.com will have full video of Andy Reid and John Dorsey's press conferences but will not stream them live.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:05 PM   #556
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I also don't need a ****ing political lesson in draft planet.
it allows others to see and clearly identify spurious debating techniques. For example, name calling only serves to belittle your opponent and avoids debating on the subject matter. It really is poor form.

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Mayr make more than 1000 posts before you start telling members what to and what not to do
I never told anyone what to do. That would be a propoganda technique of lie-ing.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:09 PM   #557
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More and more I see of Hageman the more I don't want him. He doesn't have the burst of a guy like Donald and he apparently has anger issues. Pass
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:09 PM   #558
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it allows others to see and clearly identify spurious debating techniques. For example, name calling only serves to belittle your opponent and avoids debating on the subject matter. It really is poor form.



I never told anyone what to do. That would be a propoganda technique of lie-ing.
Then take it to DC, if you want to talk about debating techniques.

You're new here. Just take your shit from everyone (like all new posters do) and move along with it. Thin skin doesn't last here.

In short, I don't really care what you appreciate or not, it's the way it is
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:11 PM   #559
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I also don't need a ****ing political lesson in draft planet.

Mayr make more than 1000 posts before you start telling members what to and what not to do
This is a bullshit post.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:11 PM   #560
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More and more I see of Hageman the more I don't want him. He doesn't have the burst of a guy like Donald and he apparently has anger issues. Pass
We need anger issues in our defense.

That's said, id rather have Donald if we are going with a defensive lineman. Or Tuitt.
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This is a bullshit post.
Being preachy like he's being before you have made 600 posts is a way to get shit on around here pretty quick.

I probably went about it wrong, but it's the way it is
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:20 PM   #562
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Being preachy like he's being before you have made 600 posts is a way to get shit on around here pretty quick.

I probably went about it wrong, but it's the way it is
I don't care about that. Civil, logical arguments will eliminate any motivation he has for calling people out for the lack thereof. And btw, DC isn't a dumpster where you send people who disagree with you or your argument style.

I don't have a problem with you, O.city, I just had a problem with that line of thinking. And as far as I'm concerned, his criticisms about argument technique were more right than wrong. Whether his football takes are any good or not, I'll leave it to you guys to hash out.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:21 PM   #563
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and Hali plays 3-4 OLB, not 3-4 DE.

6'3'', 275lb at his combine. I wouldnt want Hali to play 3-4 DE either.
Precisely my point. Here, I'll walk you through so you can comprehend it.

Shortest path to the QB? Straight through the middle of the line. Where does Donald line up? In the middle of the line. What does that mean? He doesn't have to try to run around an elite OT but instead just has to slip past a less athletic OG. 4.6 speed in a DT is a hell of a lot scarier than 4.6 speed in a DE or Rush LB because the DT doesn't have to run the arc. Did you understand that?

To top it off, his technique, speed, athleticism, and power combo translates to the outside as well, he can threaten as an edge rusher but is far deadlier inside.
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I understand your point of view. I dont agree that either Hali or Donald can hold up as a 3-4 DE. you may disagree.
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I don't care about that. Civil, logical arguments will eliminate any motivation he has for calling people out for the lack thereof. And btw, DC isn't a dumpster where you send people who disagree with you or your argument style.

I don't have a problem with you, O.city, I just had a problem with that line of thinking. And as far as I'm concerned, his criticisms about argument technique were more right than wrong. Whether his football takes are any good or not, I'll leave it to you guys to hash out.
Oh they were right. Its just not exactly endearing to posters who have been here a while for a new poster to come in and start at it that way.

Like I said, it's the way it is here on CP. t Tread lightly, learn the boards, take a few licks.

You know as well as I do how things tend to go around here
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Polian called gorapollo (sp?) a first round qb.

Wow
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I understand your point of view. I dont agree that either Hali or Donald can hold up as a 3-4 DE. you may disagree.
Yeah. And I'm saying we need a pass rush specialist far more than we need a 5-tech. Plenty of those to ba had in FA. Donald is the only one whom I can see as a player who can come in and force Manning and Rivers off of their launch points and, therefore, directly and positively affect our pass defense by disrupting the timing in the pocket.
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he may be, but I personally take Polian's opinions with a grain of salt. I dont think he drafted any succesful qb other than P. Manning (who was a sure thing).

His poor drafting was exposed when Manning got hurt, and led to him being fired.
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Polian called gorapollo (sp?) a first round qb.

Wow
I hope so. The more QBs taken ahead of us the better the talent that falls to us.
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I don't see how you can justify him as a day 2 pick, much less a first rounder
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