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Old 11-12-2013, 03:11 PM  
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The Second Law of Robotics is: A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings.

Over the weekend, a virtual sex simulator debuted in Japan, Kotaku reported. The "VR Tenga" is the product of a joint effort from adult toy company Tenga and virtual reality pioneer Oculus VR, the company behind an immersive virtual reality headset called the Oculus Rift.

The VR Tenga was unveiled at an Oculus Rift game jam in Tokyo and, as can be seen in the NSFW video above, has at least a few people excited. Buzzfeed explains how the contraption gets the robo-job done:

The device attaches a Novint Falcon—a grip-based, haptic controller—to a Tenga, a Japanese industrial masturbator. Used as intended, the user would insert his penis into the Tenga, which would be manipulated by the Falcon. All the while the user views on his Oculus some sort of visual stimulation synced to the movement of the hybrid Falcon/Tenga.

In a HuffPost/YouGov survey conducted in April, eighteen percent of respondents said they believed sex robots would be available by 2030, while only nine percent said they would have sex with a robot if they had the opportunity.

Who could resist?
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:00 PM   #16
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Divorce rates are actually much lower for non religious people.

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My point isn't about being religious versus non-religious. It's that Japan's society and societal thinking is completely different than America's, which that can be traced directly to the absence of Judeo-Christian "morality".

For example, while I might choose to be agnostic or atheist, it would be virtually impossible for me to forget and disregard the Christian teachings I learned at church and in CCD during the first 12 years of my life. They're ingrained, regardless of whether or not I believe that the God of Abraham and Isaac or Jesus exists.

That is very, very different than a entire society of millions of people that have never been raised, nurtured or taught those same values and teachings.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:03 PM   #18
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Dane isn't talking about religion per say, its more about moral code that majority of the USA goes off is based on Judeo-Christian values.
That's the way I took it too.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:04 PM   #19
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Dane isn't talking about religion per say, its more about moral code that majority of the USA goes off is based on Judeo-Christian values.
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That's the way I took it too.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:07 PM   #20
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My point isn't about being religious versus non-religious. It's that Japan's society and societal thinking is completely different than America's, which that can be traced directly to the absence of Judeo-Christian "morality".

For example, while I might choose to be agnostic or atheist, it would be virtually impossible for me to forget and disregard the Christian teachings I learned at church and in CCD during the first 12 years of my life. They're ingrained, regardless of whether or not I believe that the God of Abraham and Isaac or Jesus exists.

That is very, very different than a entire society of millions of people that have never been raised, nurtured or taught those same values and teachings.
It's not just that. When you look at the history of religion in general, western religions like Christianity have traditionally been very outwardly focused. The moral underpinnings of modern Japanese society are based on spiritual tenants that focus inward.

Modern technology has created many issues when it comes to interpersonal relations for all of us. But when you combine that with traditional Japanese values, it's almost like they're building a society of robots...
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:09 PM   #21
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It's not just that. When you look at the history of religion in general, western religions like Christianity have traditionally been very outwardly focused. The moral underpinnings of modern Japanese society are based on spiritual tenants that focus inward.

Modern technology has created many issues when it comes to interpersonal relations for all of us. But when you combine that with traditional Japanese values, it's almost like they're building a society of robots...

Not to mention, they are LITERALLY building a society of robots. As referenced by OP.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:11 PM   #22
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The difference is that while many people in America choose to be agnostic or atheist, the overwhelming majority were raised, at least to one degree or another, with Judeo-Christian values and teachings.

When you have an entire society raised in absence of those values and teachings, especially in the technological and cold world that we live in today, what appears "bizarre" to outsiders seems perfectly normal to those living within that society.
Fair point.

But do you suspect we're terribly far behind it in the west? Look at how ruthless kids are becoming, in large part due to the impersonal nature of social media. That 'code' is being eschewed more and more by younger generations that have realized you can blast someone digitally without having to look them in the eyes or witness the immediate impact.

Perhaps a purely secular upbringing led to an easier/faster adoption of the technological lifestyle, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see something similar 10-15 years down the road out here. Especially with the rise of things like Google Glass that will make digital experiences seem more and more real.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:15 PM   #23
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More and more men feel that way in this country. Not enough to matter, but it's just such a hassle to raise a family anymore. Especially the more educated males. Why would I ever get hooked up with some female for a long period of time to mate with her and raise a family? If we ever disagree enough to dissolve the contract, males are looking at not being around their child and losing half their possessions/wealth. It's not a good agreement and as a male you're making a 50 percent bet to get taken to the cleaners.
I think that's a sad statement, to be honest.

Family provides us with many of our greatest successes. Sure, going it lone-wolf is easier, but so is settling in at middle-management. Ambition is a bitch and sometimes it hurts more than it helps. But if done well, that ambition will serve you greater than ambivalence ever will.

The same applies to family life. Marry poorly and make a marginal investment and it's not going to work to your advantage. Marry well and work on it and you'll live a happier, more well-rounded life for it.

It's tougher at times, but I think your life is far more fulfilling and far more rewarding for the effort.

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Fair point.

But do you suspect we're terribly far behind it in the west? Look at how ruthless kids are becoming, in large part due to the impersonal nature of social media. That 'code' is being eschewed more and more by younger generations that have realized you can blast someone digitally without having to look them in the eyes or witness the immediate impact.
I truly don't know the answer to that question.

The media distorts everything these days. It's bizarre. We're led to believe that many things are of equal or greater proportion when in reality, it's a infinitesimal fraction.
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This is what a society living in the nearly complete absence of Judeo-Christian values looks like.
I'm not convinced your statement here is true. When I think about people making a porn movie, during daytime and in full view of anyone passing by (on Westboro Baptist Church lawn) I hesitate to assign that kind of conduct to anything less than the individuals involved. Certainly the porn makers must have had exposure to Judeo-Christian values. They apparently just rejected them.
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I'm not convinced your statement here is true. When I think about people making a porn movie, during daytime and in full view of anyone passing by (on Westboro Baptist Church lawn) I hesitate to assign that kind of conduct to anything less than the individuals involved. Certainly the porn makers must have had exposure to Judeo-Christian values. They apparently just rejected them.
You're singling out a few people versus a society of 127 million people.

FWIW, every single porn company you've ever heard of is owned and operated by Jewish men.
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You're singling out a few people versus a society of 127 million people.

FWIW, every single porn company you've ever heard of is run by Jewish men.
Well how many people in Japan are using this robotic device? I'm sure that is not known but would be pertinent to your argument.
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Well how many people in Japan are using this robotic device? I'm sure that is not known but would be pertinent to your argument.
It's not just the "robotic" device. It's Bukakke, it's sex, it's mind-altering, mood-enhancing drug use. It's so many things...
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I truly don't know the answer to that question.

The media distorts everything these days. It's bizarre. We're led to believe that many things are of equal or greater proportion when in reality, it's a infinitesimal fraction.
Wouldn't that also apply to those no value Asians you speak of?
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I think that's a sad statement, to be honest.

Family provides us with many of our greatest successes. Sure, going it lone-wolf is easier, but so is settling in at middle-management. Ambition is a bitch and sometimes it hurts more than it helps. But if done well, that ambition will serve you greater than ambivalence ever will.

The same applies to family life. Marry poorly and make a marginal investment and it's not going to work to your advantage. Marry well and work on it and you'll live a happier, more well-rounded life for it.

It's tougher at times, but I think your life is far more fulfilling and far more rewarding for the effort.

But your mileage may vary.
This is a ****ing excellent post.
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