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Old 11-04-2013, 04:32 PM  
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2011 WS Championship
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  • This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
  • Reached three World Series in the last decade, and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
  • Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.
  • Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
  • 60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
  • Only one of the last 14 seasons has been a losing one.

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Old 11-05-2013, 08:37 PM   #31
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I assumed he'd come out of ST in cf, especially after mo's comments.

I really hated seeing him injured, because I think you're prolly right with what they do with him.
He just has to be ready for CF by September.

Jay's a credible CFer during the regular season. It isn't until the post-season that he becomes a worthless, sniveling bitch.
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:40 PM   #32
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He just has to be ready for CF by September.

Jay's a credible CFer during the regular season. It isn't until the post-season that he becomes a worthless, sniveling bitch.
Yeah, I'd just like to see him get some ab's with the big club by then.

I'm not really sure he's a cf'er either. If ellsburry wasn't his age, and cost as much, I'd be somewhat interested in him in cf.
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:41 PM   #33
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:44 PM   #34
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DJ loves Pastornicky, but I've seen the dude play like three ****ing games. I have no idea bout him.
I've given up.

There is never a peep from anyone about the Braves looking to move him or a team looking to acquire him.

I do think he'd be a great option at a reasonable cost, but there's no smoke. There's not even any kindling.
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:47 PM   #35
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Castro would probably be the cheapest with th highest upside.


I'm a bit terrified they end up paying Drew.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:17 PM   #36
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Castro would probably be the cheapest with th highest upside.


I'm a bit terrified they end up paying Drew.
I doubt they sign Drew, but even if they do, it's a significant upgrade for a team that is ready to win right now.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:52 PM   #37
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They had better get someone new in at SS.......... just saying
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:24 AM   #38
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Strauss seems to feel that Profar is out and Andrus has the highest probability of being our new SS.

Heard him on his radio show. Thinks because of the salary, the less prospects we will have to give up and makes it more desirable for Mo. Thinks we can get him for Lynn and Adams at the most. Maybe Lynn alone with a AA prospect.
Doesn't make sense at all. Beltran is probably out because they want Adams in the lineup. Now we trade Adams? Beltran out to me doesn't make sense either. You take our most clutch hitter who has a history of leg and foot problems and move him back to the outfield? Its either that or keep Jay in the starting lineup which makes us even worse versus lefties with Tavares also being a lefty. We don't really have any other position players able to make the leap to the bigs in our farm system right now.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:02 AM   #39
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Doesn't make sense at all. Beltran is probably out because they want Adams in the lineup. Now we trade Adams? Beltran out to me doesn't make sense either. You take our most clutch hitter who has a history of leg and foot problems and move him back to the outfield? Its either that or keep Jay in the starting lineup which makes us even worse versus lefties with Tavares also being a lefty. We don't really have any other position players able to make the leap to the bigs in our farm system right now.
You're contradicting yourself.

If "Beltran out" doesn't make sense to you, then the team absolutely needs to move Adams. There's no place for him to play if you're not going to get Craig off 1b and Adams just hit 17 bombs in half a season. His value's unlikely to ever get higher.

If "Adams out" doesn't make sense to you, then Beltran has to go.

I've stated my preference: bank the 1st rounder, save the $14 million, let Beltran walk and get a lefty slugger into the lineup. Craig can play 1b against lefties to rest his legs and we'll find a RH-hitting OFer like we should've done last year when Moe's dumb-ass went after Wigginton instead of Hairston.
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Old 11-06-2013, 02:41 PM   #40
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Castro would probably be the cheapest with th highest upside.


I'm a bit terrified they end up paying Drew.
You could do a lot worse than Drew.
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You could do a lot worse than Drew.
I agree.

I want no part of Castro.
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I agree.

I want no part of Castro.
So you'd rather pay the same amount in $$, lose a first round pick and get an older player for 2 fewer years? Because that's exactly what you're talking about.

I'd rather roll with Kozma next year than pay $50 million for Drew and surrender a draft pick. Drew's overrated as hell - he always has been. He has no clue against LH pitching and he's a Fenway creation that put up an OPS of .687 away from home with an OBP less than .300.

Could you do worse than Drew? I guess.

But could you do worse than Drew at $12 million/year during his decline years while also surrendering a first round pick?

Honestly, you'd have to try pretty damn hard to manage it.

I'd take Peralta 100 times out of 100 over Drew.
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So you'd rather pay the same amount in $$, lose a first round pick and get an older player for 2 fewer years? Because that's exactly what you're talking about.
If it means I have to have that lousy Castro on my team, yes.
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I'd take Peralta 100 times out of 100 over Drew.
I agree. I would too. And Ellsberry.
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