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Old 10-30-2013, 11:53 AM  
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Victory for Jamie Oliver in the U.S. as McDonald’s is forced to stop using pink slime

TV chef was disgusted to discover ammonium hydroxide was being used by McDonald's to convert fatty beef offcuts into a beef filler for burgers




'Why would any sensible human being want to put ammonia-filled meat into their children's mouths? asked Jamie Oliver



McDonald's denies its hand had been forced by TV campaign


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-recipe.html
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:12 PM   #106
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Except that it had an effect on MY obesity rate, so all of your info is completely pointless, and completely wrong.
You're an idiot.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:20 PM   #107
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I see a 10 piece McNugget in my very near future.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:22 PM   #108
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The problem of diabetes and health issues would remain if you closed every single McD's in the country. That's the point you're missing. It's not the access to a particular food that's the problem. It's the fact that people don't care. You can't make people eat healthy food by attempting to remove all the unhealthy food. That doesn't work, and that will never work. Fatties don't eat at McD's all the time because they don't have access to healthy food alternatives. They absolutely do, even within McD's itself.

You keep harping that people are being tricked, and they don't know that what they eat is unhealthy. But that's BS. The nutritional info is always available for everything they serve, for those that want to find out. What else do you want? A popup disclaimer every time somebody orders a Big Mac and large fries and coke that says "Hey fatty, you sure you know how many calories that is?" Come on.....
This.

Seriously. Fish just won Chiefs Planet.

People don't give a single **** about what they're eating. I have no idea why, but people seem to think it's totally fine to balloon up like a whale and suck at life. It seems that people don't care about themselves at all anymore. Nobody is waiting in line for fast food thinking it's even moderately healthy yet they continue to eat it day after day.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:27 PM   #109
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By the way, as someone who has Celiac Disease and has to know what's in his food, I am all for full disclosure labeling, both in the store and in restaurants. I also like calorie info at restaurants because it makes it easier to figure out how to make food more reasonable (for example, leaving the mayo off of a Whopper cuts more calories than you would think).

I just wish people would educate themselves more on what really matters and not just freak out because some Internet or TV guru tells them they should.
As a Celiac, do you eat at restaurants often? No fears of cross-contamination?

My wife is a Celiac and she has had a reaction EVERY time we went out to eat. Needless to say, she won't eat at restaurants anymore.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:27 PM   #110
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I see a 10 piece McNugget in my very near future.
Get 20. Use all the sauces. Get a large fry, large soft drink and a double quarter pounder, too.

Then post about it as you eat. Sapho's head will explode.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:37 PM   #111
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No and I rarely eat there. I just know that if you eat decently most of the time occasional forays into fast food or junk food isn't going to hurt you assuming you don't gorge yourself. That's all I was saying.

Watch the first half of the documentary "Fat Head" sometime. It was an answer to "Supersize Me", where the film maker ate every meal at McD's except didn't stuff himself like Morgan Spurlock did. He lost weight and had his health markers (BP, cholesterol, etc) improve.

Then there was the nutrition professor that put himself on the Twinkie Diet and ate mostly junk food for 10 weeks (but kept the calories low - 1800/day) and lost weight and had his health markers improve.

I don't advocate (and have never said) to eat at McD's or eat junk food all of the time. Eating a mostly whole food diet is what I think is healthful (and what I strive for). However, if I'm on the road and choose to eat at fast food place due to time/cost, I don't freak the **** out about like some apparently do.
You are absolutely right. There is no reason to go completely apeshit at a fast food place and occasionally eating that shit in moderate serving sizes won't kill you. However, people are missing out on nutrients when they opt for processed foods like the "meat" served at fast food joints over real food like grass fed beef that has no added hormones/antibiotics.

As for the Twinky Diet guy, anyone can lose weight by maintaining a low calorie diet as he did. Weight loss alone will improve many health markers. Again, he is missing out of important nutrients that he'd get from real foods so that twinkie died wouldn't be a great option long term.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:43 PM   #112
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Except that it had an effect on MY obesity rate, so all of your info is completely pointless, and completely wrong.
This is awesome in so many ways.

Although, if you're being serious, it might be a good idea to increase your statistical sample population to a number larger than just yourself.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:44 PM   #113
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As a Celiac, do you eat at restaurants often? No fears of cross-contamination?
I don't eat out very often. I have set places that I go (both of my sons also have it, so it's a challenge to eat on vacation) and am hesitant to eat at new places. Fortunately, more places are aware of gluten and are good about it, though some still aren't (like most pizza places that offer a "gluten free" crust but cook it in the same oven as the gluten pizza).

Cross-contamination is always a risk and we do get hit occasionally. I go into knowing the risks
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:46 PM   #114
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As for the Twinky Diet guy, anyone can lose weight by maintaining a low calorie diet as he did. Weight loss alone will improve many health markers. Again, he is missing out of important nutrients that he'd get from real foods so that twinkie died wouldn't be a great option long term.
Of course. It just isn't going to kill you or cause irreparable harm to eat out or eat junk food if you control the calories.
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You're an idiot.
I'm pretty sure that was a joke.
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I'm pretty sure that was a joke.
It's part and parcel with his other posts.
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This is awesome in so many ways.

Although, if you're being serious, it might be a good idea to increase your statistical sample population to a number larger than just yourself.
Not really. It doesn't work for everyone, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work for anyone.
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Get 20. Use all the sauces. Get a large fry, large soft drink and a double quarter pounder, too.

Then post about it as you eat. Sapho's head will explode.
Only if i can replace the coke with a milkshake, then we're talkin.
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