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I am a Democrat and I believe marijuana should be legalized 6 6.32%
I am a Democrat and I DO NOT believe marijuana should be legalized 0 0%
I am a Republican and I believe marijuana should be legalized 16 16.84%
I am a Republican and I DO NOT believe marijuana should be legalized 2 2.11%
I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, but I believe that marijuana should be legalized 65 68.42%
I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, but I DO NOT believe that marijuana should be legalized 6 6.32%
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:56 PM  
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Should Marijuana be Legalized?

I'm curious as to what the consensus among posters here is.

Should marijuana be made legal?

Some interesting stats regarding political parties and age brackets;





Full article: http://www.gallup.com/poll/165539/fi...marijuana.aspx

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Old 10-22-2013, 11:20 PM   #76
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Well, gee, I thought you just made that claim several posts back.
I may have made a typo, let me check.
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So, you're speaking for your country in the poll then.
Somewhat. If that bothers you, then I'm not sure what to say.
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:23 PM   #77
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That's not an insult if'n you noticed. It was a comment about the effects of weed and hoping it would have the effect on Ds. Talk about irony, I'm seeing a lot about the end of Republicans and saw a lot of Bush bashing earlier. Oh, and there's no need for you to be a Democrat since you're not in the American system. You seem to lean toward statism
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I may have made a typo, let me check.
Somewhat. If that bothers you, then I'm not sure what to say.
Nope, said "illegal".

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Not particularly. In the instance of weed, if one state has 80% wanting it illegal and one has 80% wanting it legalized, then sure, by all means do it by state.
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:24 PM   #78
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Sure, I get you. I was just saying that we have a mechanism in place to address that issue.
I think this would be another argument which I haven't time for since I am using someone's computer ( and also have a tummy ache too). But I was, at one time, for legalizing all recreational drugs. The argument that switched me back to being against that was the doctors would be the drug-pushers instead. Other than that, all addictions affect those around the addicted. And the society we live in today is going to feel sorry for them and give them some sort of govt aid or to their dependents.
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I think this would be another argument which I haven't time for since I am using someone's computer ( and also have a tummy ache too). But I was, at one time, for legalizing all recreational drugs. The argument that switched me back to being against that was the doctors would be the drug-pushers instead. Other than that, all addictions affect those around the addicted. And the society we live in today is going to feel sorry for them and give them some sort of govt aid or to their dependents.
So then make alcohol and cigarettes illegal too. No?
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:26 PM   #80
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I may have made a typo, let me check.
No you didn't. I just checked.

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Somewhat. If that bothers you, then I'm not sure what to say.
No that part doesn't. Again, bothers is the wrong word. It's just a fact it's not your concern how much money our govt would make taxing it.
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I dug around before when looking at this, and as I recall there was someone in the FDA potentially holding up the issue on a national basis. At first glance it looks like the Attorney General has substantial authority concerning the scheduling of controlled substances. The POTUS is a D. The AG is a D. If it was just a matter of the D's wanting it legalized...wouldn't it have already happened?
They do not want it legal at all. I sincerely believe it will never be legal on the federal level.
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No you didn't. I just checked.



No that part doesn't. Again, bothers is the wrong word. It's just a fact it's not your concern how much money our govt would make taxing it.
I never even showed an opinion on the taxation. Just stated that it would make billions per year.

Come on man.
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So then make alcohol and cigarettes illegal too. No?
That's not what the thread is about. I was actually referring to all recreational "hard" drugs being made legal; not softer ones like cigs, alcohol or weed. Outside of the legal or illegal construct though, most addictions do affect those close to the addicted. I just don't think it can be said that such things don't. I don't see why you think it always means that the state should be involved when an observation in general is made about addictions.
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I never even showed an opinion on the taxation. Just stated that it would make billions per year.

Come on man.
Either way. Although, you did show an opinion because making that money is from taxation.
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I think this would be another argument which I haven't time for since I am using someone's computer ( and also have a tummy ache too). But I was, at one time, for legalizing all recreational drugs. The argument that switched me back to being against that was the doctors would be the drug-pushers instead. Other than that, all addictions affect those around the addicted. And the society we live in today is going to feel sorry for them and give them some sort of govt aid or to their dependents.
Yeah. It's a complicated issue, and I honestly don't have the time/will for it either. I did dig up an article about pot regarding the federal reaction to recent state legalization. It's an intriguing attempt by the feds to back off and leave it to the state:



WASHINGTON -- The United States government took a historic step back from its long-running drug war on Thursday, when Attorney General Eric Holder informed the governors of Washington and Colorado that the Department of Justice would allow the states to create a regime that would regulate and implement the ballot initiatives that legalized the use of marijuana for adults.


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The memo also outlines eight priorities for federal prosecutors enforcing marijuana laws. According to the guidance, DOJ will still prosecute individuals or entities to prevent:
  • the distribution of marijuana to minors;
  • revenue from the sale of marijuana from going to criminal enterprises, gangs and cartels;
  • the diversion of marijuana from states where it is legal under state law in some form to other states;
  • state-authorized marijuana activity from being used as a cover or pretext for the trafficking of other illegal drugs or other illegal activity;
  • violence and the use of firearms in the cultivation and distribution of marijuana
  • drugged driving and the exacerbation of other adverse public health consequences associated with marijuana use;
  • growing of marijuana on public lands and the attendant public safety and environmental dangers posed by marijuana production on public lands;
  • preventing marijuana possession or use on federal property.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3837034.html
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Either way. Although, you did show an opinion because making that money is from taxation.
What? All I did was say that the idea that it would bad economically is not true at all, because apparently some people use that as a reason to not legalize it. I never once said that it should be legalized because it can make tonnes of money for the govt.
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They do not want it legal at all. I sincerely believe it will never be legal on the federal level.
See my above post. All eyes are on the stoner states.
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That's not what the thread is about. I was actually referring to all recreational "hard" drugs being made legal; not softer ones like cigs, alcohol or weed. Outside of the legal or illegal construct though, most addictions do affect those close to the addicted. I just don't think it can be said that such things don't. I don't see why you think it always means that the state should be involved when an observation in general is made about addictions.
Well yeah, hard drugs are another issue.

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Sell it up, tax the shit out of it, pay down the national debt.
The only problem with this is that everytime a new tax or tax increase passes, the spending goes up. This is why I am against taxing it--although it probably will be even if legalized by state.
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