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I am a Democrat and I believe marijuana should be legalized 6 6.32%
I am a Democrat and I DO NOT believe marijuana should be legalized 0 0%
I am a Republican and I believe marijuana should be legalized 16 16.84%
I am a Republican and I DO NOT believe marijuana should be legalized 2 2.11%
I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, but I believe that marijuana should be legalized 65 68.42%
I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, but I DO NOT believe that marijuana should be legalized 6 6.32%
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:56 PM  
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Should Marijuana be Legalized?

I'm curious as to what the consensus among posters here is.

Should marijuana be made legal?

Some interesting stats regarding political parties and age brackets;





Full article: http://www.gallup.com/poll/165539/fi...marijuana.aspx

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For most, I think the argument that "weed would generate huge tax revenue" is usually a response to the idea that legalizing weed would cost the government money or would be some kind of economical problem. I don't think it's the main point very often.
If true, ill stipulate that my argument then would be null. I have heard people argue the tax point before and it's usually one of te first they pull out and I never bought it. Your point inferring about avoiding enforcement costs is very valid.
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If true, ill stipulate that my argument then would be null. I have heard people argue the tax point before and it's usually one of te first they pull out and I never bought it. Your point inferring about avoiding enforcement costs is very valid.
Yeah, pretty much. I'd never say, legalize it JUST to make money. I just see it as a side benefit, just adding to the positives of legalization. To me, it doesn't make sense to make a drug like weed illegal. It costs a huge amount of money to police it, and so many people go to prison of get hefty fines for doing something that is no more harmful than drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes, etc, it may even be less harmful.
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That's what one economist said. That the US would make BILLIONS of dollars annually from tax revenue.
And the banks that control the US govt would lose money.

good luck with that ever happening.
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Basically, the only things that should be illegal are things that do harm to another person be it their person or property. So things like murder, assault, theft, fraud, property damage, and rape. Other things that do no harm to other people but harm the doer themselves should be legal: drugs, suicide, experimental medicine, etc.
As I became a full fledged adult member of the establishment, I realized there are very few actions that don't impact others. Maybe watching Chiefs games, although I'd stipulate at least some women would dispute that. Drug abuse is rarely victimless and if one has small children, it sures hell ain't.



We imagine the college kids in a dorm or some Marlboro man out in his mountain cabin smoking up and think that's the norm.
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Only if it is taxed to high heaven.
Nope. I don't want another revenue source for any govt.

General comment to poll: This should be done by state--not nationally which the poll seems to imply. And which some answers show under the US making so much money on it. No federal tax, whatsoever, should be placed on this.
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As I became a full fledged adult member of the establishment, I realized there are very few actions that don't impact others. Maybe watching Chiefs games, although I'd stipulate at least some women would dispute that. Drug abuse is rarely victimless and if one has small children, it sures hell ain't.



We imagine the college kids in a dorm or some Marlboro man out in his mountain cabin smoking up and think that's the norm.
Except that weed makes people mellow. Not that it can't do harm, but IMO alcohol abuse has much more potential to impact others, especially young children, than smoking weed.
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Yeah, pretty much. I'd never say, legalize it JUST to make money. I just see it as a side benefit, just adding to the positives of legalization. To me, it doesn't make sense to make a drug like weed illegal. It costs a huge amount of money to police it, and so many people go to prison of get hefty fines for doing something that is no more harmful than drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes, etc, it may even be less harmful.
Alcohol is a huge problem in this country and I accept arguments it's worse than pot. But I also realize its because damn near everyone uses alcohol to some degree whereas pot is very niche. Pot would already be legal if the majority of Americans used it at least intermittently
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Yeah, pretty much. I'd never say, legalize it JUST to make money. I just see it as a side benefit, just adding to the positives of legalization. To me, it doesn't make sense to make a drug like weed illegal. It costs a huge amount of money to police it, and so many people go to prison of get hefty fines for doing something that is no more harmful than drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes, etc, it may even be less harmful.
You don't live here, so it's none of your business how much our govt makes on it. We have states for a reason. Such things are NOT a federal matter under our Constitution or should not if it were properly followed.
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You goons want the govt to tax it? Why?

Why does the govt have to tax it? Just leave it alone and let it become it's own enterprise. It'd be a more booming industry than alcohol, so much so they (booze tycoons) would probably create/invest money into making their own brands etc. Weed is alcohol's biggest competitor..or would be. And you'd see a massive shift and once people got eased at the idea of weed being legal, more people will do it, and they'll find out it's much better than alcohol in so many different facets. Don't think Miller, Coors, AB etc wouldn't want to stick their dicks into that business.

Just make drugs legal. The drug war would go away almost immediately. Oh wait, they can't. The CIA needs for there to be a black market so the big banks can launder billions into the American economy.
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Alcohol is a huge problem in this country and I accept arguments it's worse than pot. But I also realize its because damn near everyone uses alcohol to some degree whereas pot is very niche. Pot would already be legal if the majority of Americans used it at least intermittently
Fair point. However, if pot was used legal and used just as much as alcohol, I still think it would make less of an impact on others.
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You don't live here, so it's none of your business how much our govt makes on it. We have states for a reason. Such things are NOT a federal matter under our Constitution or should not if it were properly followed.
heh, there's always someone that gets offended.

No, I don't live in your sacred country, however, I do live in a fairly similar country. A country which speaks english, has strong ties to the US, has similar policies/issues etc, AND has made weed illegal.

The OP can relate to my country too. Just not the stats.
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i believe it should be completely legalized and taxed like any other grocery produce if sold.
i have no interest in giving the government inflated tax revenue when their position has been wrong for so long.
Excuse me, do grocery products have a federal tax? Are groceries taxedin every state? I think you need to look at those first before claiming meed be taxed like any other grocery product. Groceries are a necessity.I hope the Feds don't start taxing those too.
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You goons want the govt to tax it? Why?

Why does the govt have to tax it? Just leave it alone and let it become it's own enterprise. It'd be a more booming industry than alcohol, so much so they (booze tycoons) would probably create/invest money into making their own brands etc. Weed is alcohol's biggest competitor..or would be. And you'd see a massive shift and once people got eased at the idea of weed being legal, more people will do it, and they'll find out it's much better than alcohol in so many different facets. Don't think Miller, Coors, AB etc wouldn't want to stick their dicks into that business.

Just make drugs legal. The drug war would go away almost immediately. Oh wait, they can't. The CIA needs for there to be a black market so the big banks can launder billions into the American economy.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not advocating that in the instance that weed is made legal, that it SHOULD be taxed, I'm saying it's a point to make it legal. If it WERE made legal, there'd be no way the govt wouldn't tax it.
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Fair point. However, if pot was used legal and used just as much as alcohol, I still think it would make less of an impact on others.
I don't think there's any doubt about that.
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heh, there's always someone that gets offended.
No offense is taken. It's just a reminder that this doesn't affect you and that you don't know our system of govt on top. Just pointing out a busy-body.

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No, I don't live in your sacred country, however, I do live in a fairly similar country. A country which speaks english, has strong ties to the US, has similar policies/issues etc, AND has made weed illegal.
So.

You also outlawed guns whereas we have a 2nd Amendment. Plus you have Vegamite.
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