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Sac's 2014 Chiefs Draft - Less Than a Month Away Mock

Update time for the mock to reflect the needs of the Chiefs as they appear with less than a month to the actual event - the 2014 NFL Draft.

Round 1. Kyle Van Noy, LB; BYU: 6'3 1/2", 243 lbs., 31 5/8" arms, 9 5/8" hands

- For a long time, Odell Beckham, WR; LSU, has been in this spot. After recent epiphanies (the depth of the WR position in the draft, the need for position free versatility in the LB corps, etc.), Van Noy is now the most logical and needed pick for the Chiefs with their first round selection. Van Noy is the most fluid and instinctual player in this draft. He has an uncanny ability to understand and diagnose a play from it's inception. He finds the ball exceptionally well and takes near perfect angles in pursuit. He's an excellent pass rusher with a variety of moves. He has terrific burst and plays sideline to sideline. He's excellent in coverage as well, showing not only top notch instincts but extremely fluid hips and feet and hands. Van Noy is position independent, capable of lining up at any of the four LB spots. He's also a superb special teams player, blocking numerous kicks/punts over his career. A vocal team leader.

Van Noy finishes his college career with the third highest Tackles For Loss in NCAA football history. 223 tackles, 61.5 tfl, 26 sacks, 7 Ints, 21 passes defensed, 11 forced fumbles (with three recovered for TD's). The guy is an impact four down playmaker.

Combine numbers for KVN:

Bench: 21 reps
40: 4.71
Vertical: 32.5"
Broad: 112"
3 Cone: 7.22 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.20 seconds

Van Noy stood on his combine numbers at the BYU Pro Day and just worked for teams in positional drills. Has been working out/training at since the Combine.

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Has a muscular, well-proportioned build. Quick get-off. Knifes gaps. Good pass-rush ability -- can push the pocket or pressure the edge. Keeps working to the quarterback and has deceptive closing speed. Eyes the quarterback and tries to get his hands in the passing lane. Athletic with good movement skills in all directions -- equipped to keep pace with backs and tight ends in coverage. Is rangy and can open up his stride and run vertical. Glides on the field. Scheme versatile. Football smart. - NFL.com
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•A very fluid athlete, which is hardly surprising when you look at his history. However turning to run in coverage was about as fluid as I've seen from a linebacker. Flips the hips well, and has a good break on the football in coverage.
•Active hands. It's unusual to have two positives to start based on coverage, but he really does do a nice job of getting his hands in-between the football and the receiver.
•Good change of direction. Really plants that foot and explodes either in pass coverage or in run support.
•Excellent awareness. Really has a feel for the game and takes good angles and barely every takes the incorrect first step.
•Leader: Showed a lot of character to battle through some injuries in 2013, and was seen as the defensive leader on the field, very vocal and willing to do the dirty work.
•Shows a nice array of pass rushing moves, has enough speed to trouble the edge but also mixes in some moves to keep offensive lineman off balance.
•Works through traffic well and just seems to disengage at the exact moment he should to make the tackle. Which comes down to having a good feel for the game. - SBNation






Round 3. Cyril Richardson, OL; Baylor: 6'5", 329 lbs., 34 5/8" arms, 9 1/2" hands
- The OG position is one of huge need for the Chiefs. While they signed former Indianapolis Colts OL Jeff Linkenbach, there is no one who believes that he's anything more than insurance/depth for the now depleted KC offensive line, which saw the loss of Jon Asamoah and Jeff Schwartz in free agency.

Richardson was once considered a first round lock, but you can thank Pitt's Aaron Donald at the Senior Bowl for this gift of a pick. Richardson is an outstanding offensive line prospect with size and power who has played and excelled at both guard and tackle during his time with the Bears. 2013 First Team All-American, All-Conference, Big 12 Offensive Lineman of the Year and finalist for the Outland Trophy. He's got as much potential to be an All-Pro level guard as anyone in this draft. An absolute steal if he is here with this pick for the Chiefs.

Bench: 25 reps
40: 5.36 seconds
Vertical: 25.5"
Broad: 91"
3 Cone: 7.70 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.83 seconds

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Outstanding size and girth with legitimate NFL strength. Sturdy base and heavy anchor -- squats a small house and is dependable in pass protection. Generates movement in the run game. Can work his hips and gain positioning. Walls off and seals. Packs a jolting punch and plays with a load in his hands -- latches on, controls and steers. Wins in a phone booth and can manhandle smaller linemen. Enough balance, coordination and foot speed to pull and trap effectively. Has played tackle and guard. Conditioned in an up-tempo, no-huddle offense. - NFL.com


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Richardson ran the 40-yard dash in 5.23 and 5.28 seconds. Richardson, who has 34 3/8-inch arms, did 30 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press (at Baylor's Pro Day). Richardson has lost about 20 pounds since the end of the 2013 season when he was at the Reese’s Senior Bowl. He has worked hard to lose that weight and that hard work paid off at Baylor’s pro day, when he looked very good; he looked like the Richardson we remembered from a year ago when he was one of the most highly regarded offensive line prospects in the nation. He had gotten too heavy in 2013 and did not move well enough to be considered a top line prospect. Now, however, he might have moved back into second-round consideration for the 2014 NFL Draft after falling down into the third-round range with all that weight.




Round 4. Devin Street, WR; Pittsburgh: Senior: 6'3", 198 lbs., 33 3/8" arms, 9 1/4" hands

- While the Chiefs didn't have much luck with the last Pitt WR they took, Street is a different type of animal. Superb hands, long arms and tireless work ethic, Street is the career receptions leader for Pitt and third all-time in yardage. He highpoints the ball extremely well, and is a crisp, precision route runner with no fear of catching balls over the middle of the field. His size, speed, vertical, route running and hands give him a real shot at being a true #1 WR in a couple of years.

Combine numbers:

40: 4.55
Vertical: 37"
Broad: 124"
3 Cone: 6.89 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.01 seconds

At Pitt's Pro Day, scouts timed him at 4.46 in the 40.

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Has excellent length and room for added bulk. Chews up ground with long strides. Is a big target underneath with a sizable catch radius. Shows natural receiving skills to track, concentrate and adjust. Soft, dependable hands to extend and pull in a throw off his body. Uses his big frame to post up defensive backs. Nice field awareness. Lined up outside and inside. Solid personal and football character. Productive, 40-game starter. Team captain. - NFL.com
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Devin Street is one of the best pass-catchers in the draft. He has absolutely fantastic hands and an uncanny ability to spear the ball at its' highest point. Instead of trying to catch with his chest, he prefers to use his strong hands to tear the ball out of the air, or out of cornerbacks' hands. He has great timing and great coordination, which allows him to win jump balls regularly and adjust to mis-throws. He is a good route runner and can work the sidelines well, displaying the ability to drag his feet several times in his tape. Having dealt with an inconsistent situation at quarterback throughout his time at Pitt, Street has developed a knack for being in the right place while his quarterback improvises, often having to peel off his route to come back to the ball. His size is ideal for a wideout, as his 6'4'' frame provides a lengthy target for the quarterback. While he works the sidelines well, he doesn't shy away from the middle of the field, and actually runs a very polished slant route. As Pitt's all-time leading pass-catcher with 202 career receptions, he obviously boasts a substantial college résumé. - SBNation




Round 5. Matt Patchan, OT; Boston College: 6'6", 302 lb., 33" arms, 9 3/8" hands
- The Chiefs really don't have anyone behind Fisher and Stephenson at the offensive tackle position and haven't addressed it/overpaid for it during free agency. Patchan is an enigma. He literally could be one the best offensive tackles in this draft. He was a highly sought after prep recruit (top 50 overall/top 5 OL prospect) that originally signed with Miami. He's an absolute freak athletically (compares very well to both Fisher and Stephenson in that regard). Has excellent footwork, very good hands and is incredible at getting into the second level. Plays nasty. However, he's hardly ever been on the field due to a series of freak accidents unrelated to football including not one, but two scooter crashes and getting shot in the shoulder in a Miami park as a bystander as well as numerous football related injuries that include a torn pec, ACL, wrist, etc.

2013 was really the first time that he played a full college season and he was rewarded with a 2nd Team All-Conference nod and multiple Conference Offensive Line Player of the Week Awards. You just can't overlook this level of athleticism. The tools and attitude are there.

Combine numbers:
40: 4.97
Bench: 22 reps
Vertical: 33.5"

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Highly impressive raw numbers from the combine…Terrific athlete in the straight-line with some explosive characteristics…Can lead block down the field with the mobility of most tight ends…Takes sharp angles down the field and is very rangy…Plays with eyes up to see moving defenders, aids effectiveness as a combo blocker or handling stunts in pass protection…Places hands well to keep them inside the frame of defenders…Is a sticky blocker who’s tough to disengage from if he stays balanced on contact…Explodes off the ball as a power run blocker and can drop pads well enough into contact…Can deliver highly impactful blocks with a heavy punch…Will finish by driving defenders into the ground, great mentality…Son of an NFL offensive lineman.
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Looks the part of an NFL offensive tackle with broad shoulders, long arms and a trim middle. Very good initial quickness off the snap, firing off the ball when run-blocking to turn and seal his opponent from the action. Surprising straight-line speed to get to the second level and shows good lateral agility and body control to adjust to moving targets.

Easy athleticism is apparent in pass protection, as well, showing the balance and fluidity to remain outside in the NFL, perhaps even at left tackle (as he played for BC). Plays with good knee bend and on the balls of his feet, showing the ability to slide laterally, keeping his shoulders square to the defender. Latches onto opponents and shows good strength in his hands to control once engaged.

Undeniable talent whose question marks are largely off the field.




Round 6. Ryan Carrethers, DT; Arkansas State: 6'1", 337 lbs., 31 3/4" arms, 9 3/8" hands
- For some reason, the Chiefs FO/coaching staff just hasn't dedicated the backup NT spot to Jerrell "The Landshark" Powe. As such, there is a perceived hole behind Dontari Poe as the two down NT.

The word "massive" is apropos describing Carrethers, who is literally built like a sequoia tree trunk. The really nice thing that he does well is he's very instinctive in finding the ball carrier evidenced by having one game where he had more tackles in a single game than any other defensive lineman in college in 2013 (16 tackles). First team All-Conference.

Bench: 32 reps
40: 5.47 seconds
Vertical: 26"
Broad: 88"
3 Cone: 7.89
20 Shuttle: 4.60

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Big and thick with outstanding weight-room strength -- squats a small house and maintains low body fat. Has sheer mass and natural girth to dig in and hold his ground vs. double teams. Has a wrestling background and understands leverage. Has two-gap ability. Heavy tackler. Nice effort for a big man. Tough and durable. Solid personal and football character -- is devoted to his craft and has a professional approach to the game. - NFL.com




Round 6. Dontae Johnson, DB; North Carolina State: 6'2", 200 lbs., 31 1/2" arms, 8 5/8" hands
- Johnson is an athletic, heady player who has played all over the Wolfpack defense including CB, OLB, SS and FS. While the Chiefs have added Jerron McMillian at S and Chris Owens at CB to the 2014 roster, Johnson gives them a player who will be able to play either slot effectively. Would be a great addition in terms of depth and special teams play.

Bench: 12 reps
40: 4.45 seconds
Vertical: 38.5"
Broad: 124"
3 Cone: 6.82 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.24 seconds
60 Shuttle: 11.06 seconds

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Good balance and athleticism. Can run with tight ends in coverage. Good zone awareness. Efficient plant-and-drive. Nice length to compete in the air. Sets a hard edge as a force player -- works to get off blocks, throws his weight around and tackles aggressively. Has played safety, cornerback, nickel and special teams. Smart and hardworking. - NFL.com





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Fasano is a damn good 2nd TE.
I agree, but when they used a high third on Kelce in the 2013 draft and we've received solid production out of Beard McGrath all season long, I would hope that our tight end situation has been and is basically addressed for the immediate and long term future.

While I think that Jenkins is a talent, spending our first rounder in 2014 on him or another player at the tight end position would be a waste, all things considered.

I think that the Chiefs will end up going with the best OL guy on the board, someone like Miss State's Gabe Jackson, Stanford's Dave Yankey or Baylor's Cyril Richardson, unless guy like USC's WR Marquis Lee or Alabama's FS Ha-Ha Dix is sitting there.

However, just throwing this out, a guy who might be a dark horse is Utah's DE Trevor Riley.

Riley led the team in most defensive categories (sacks, tackles for loss, tackles and fumble recoveries). Long and athletic, Riley really exploded this year. Utah defensive players under Wittingham have made a smooth transition to the NFL and Riley's size (6'5", 255 lbs.) indicates he'll be a nice fit for an OLB in a 34 system.

However, I still think it will be a OL guy. Neither Albert nor Asamoah will likely get long term, bigger money contracts and both positions seem to have already been upgraded with the insertion of Stephenson and Schwartz into the lineup. However, Allen still remains the weak link on the line, though the #2 receiver position is probably the biggest need with free safety second.

Draft needs as I see it:

1. WR
- Unless a guy like Lee falls, guys like Davante Adams, Allen Robinson and Jordan Matthews are really no different than guys like Mike Davis and Cody Hoffman - and I personally like Davis and Hoffman a lot better than those guys anyway. I think LSU's Odell Beckham offers up some nice stuff, but I think he'll be in that second/third round grey area. Ohio State's Pitt Brown or Oregon's Josh Huff gives you that same type of guy as Beckham though and will be around in the later rounds.

2. FS
- After Dix it's a pretty thin class at the position and I'm pretty sure that the Chiefs have two young guys/rookies on the roster in Commings and McDougald that will really push Kendrick Lewis for the starting spot for the 2014 season. If it's not Dix, who does have superb speed and athleticism at the position, I don't think you waste a pick due to the two young guys already on the roster.

3. OL
- As stated, I don't see either Albert or Asamoah getting much in terms of a long term offer/contract from the team. Both, in a contract season, haven't played very well and have been out played by the guys who've replaced them the past couple of weeks in Stephenson (who I thought we stole in the 2012 draft) and Schwartz (who seems to solidify the blocking on the line every time he's been inserted into the lineup). Jeff Allen has been flat bad for most of the year and could easily be replaced in the starting lineup. Where the Chiefs will pick, they will have their choice of some really solid pro prospects in the aforementioned guys like Jackson, Yankey or Richardson. And I really like either Virginia's OT Morgan Moses or Tennessee's OT JaWuan James in around the third/fourth round area.
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I agree, but when they used a high third on Kelce in the 2013 draft and we've received solid production out of Beard McGrath all season long, I would hope that our tight end situation has been and is basically addressed for the immediate and long term future.

While I think that Jenkins is a talent, spending our first rounder in 2014 on him or another player at the tight end position would be a waste, all things considered.

I think that the Chiefs will end up going with the best OL guy on the board, someone like Miss State's Gabe Jackson, Stanford's Dave Yankey or Baylor's Cyril Richardson, unless guy like USC's WR Marquis Lee or Alabama's FS Ha-Ha Dix is sitting there.

However, just throwing this out, a guy who might be a dark horse is Utah's DE Trevor Riley.

Riley led the team in most defensive categories (sacks, tackles for loss, tackles and fumble recoveries). Long and athletic, Riley really exploded this year. Utah defensive players under Wittingham have made a smooth transition to the NFL and Riley's size (6'5", 255 lbs.) indicates he'll be a nice fit for an OLB in a 34 system.

However, I still think it will be a OL guy. Neither Albert nor Asamoah will likely get long term, bigger money contracts and both positions seem to have already been upgraded with the insertion of Stephenson and Schwartz into the lineup. However, Allen still remains the weak link on the line, though the #2 receiver position is probably the biggest need with free safety second.

Draft needs as I see it:

1. WR
- Unless a guy like Lee falls, guys like Davante Adams, Allen Robinson and Jordan Matthews are really no different than guys like Mike Davis and Cody Hoffman - and I personally like Davis and Hoffman a lot better than those guys anyway. I think LSU's Odell Beckham offers up some nice stuff, but I think he'll be in that second/third round grey area. Ohio State's Pitt Brown or Oregon's Josh Huff gives you that same type of guy as Beckham though and will be around in the later rounds.

2. FS
- After Dix it's a pretty thin class at the position and I'm pretty sure that the Chiefs have two young guys/rookies on the roster in Commings and McDougald that will really push Kendrick Lewis for the starting spot for the 2014 season. If it's not Dix, who does have superb speed and athleticism at the position, I don't think you waste a pick due to the two young guys already on the roster.

3. OL
- As stated, I don't see either Albert or Asamoah getting much in terms of a long term offer/contract from the team. Both, in a contract season, haven't played very well and have been out played by the guys who've replaced them the past couple of weeks in Stephenson (who I thought we stole in the 2012 draft) and Schwartz (who seems to solidify the blocking on the line every time he's been inserted into the lineup). Jeff Allen has been flat bad for most of the year and could easily be replaced in the starting lineup. Where the Chiefs will pick, they will have their choice of some really solid pro prospects in the aforementioned guys like Jackson, Yankey or Richardson. And I really like either Virginia's OT Morgan Moses or Tennessee's OT JaWuan James in around the third/fourth round area.
I think you could be right about TE. Reid is close with Kelce's family. He's gonna let him roll. I like the Fasano/Kelce/McGrath trio.

I don't know about OL. Reid obviously has Fisher at LT next year. He likes Jeff Allen a lot, Schwartz will probably start and I think Stephenson deserves his shot at RT.
I think Hudson would be the only weak link because he's struggled and is too small to fit Reid's system.

I think it just depends on who is there. The Joyner kid from FSU is pretty good too, but not sure if he's worth a 1st. Tuitt would be amazing, but idk how he would last that long on the board.

We will probably pick up Jeremy Maclin and a veteran safety, draft a lineman of some sort in round 1 and then draft another WR in round 3. I can see that happening.
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I think you could be right about TE. Reid is close with Kelce's family. He's gonna let him roll. I like the Fasano/Kelce/McGrath trio.

I don't know about OL. Reid obviously has Fisher at LT next year. He likes Jeff Allen a lot, Schwartz will probably start and I think Stephenson deserves his shot at RT.
I think Hudson would be the only weak link because he's struggled and is too small to fit Reid's system.

I think it just depends on who is there. The Joyner kid from FSU is pretty good too, but not sure if he's worth a 1st. Tuitt would be amazing, but idk how he would last that long on the board.

We will probably pick up Jeremy Maclin and a veteran safety, draft a lineman of some sort in round 1 and then draft another WR in round 3. I can see that happening.
You are probably correct with TE situation but if the top TE is still there, we take him.

FS is a huge need for us but as others have said the only viable pick in the 1st
round at that position is Ha-Ha and he will be gone.

With Albert and Asamoah going in FA, Oline is gonna be high on the list also.

So, I think it falls like this:

We pick up the best FS in FA by signing Jarius Byrd. Will have the money if we don't resign Albert and Lewis.

In the 1st round we take the best player available at either TE, Oline or Wr. One is gonna slip and fall to us out of that group and I'd predick it will be Lee (Wr) or Ebron (TE)

Then pick up a OG or Tackle in the 3rd.
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Would you draft a TE round 1 even though Fasano will be back and Kelce is healthy next year? Cut Duck Dynasty maybe?

I think if Sefarian-Jenkins is on the board, we gotta take him. He's too good.
I'm not gonna count on Fasano for anything at this point. He's a journeyman at best and a constant injury risk at worst.
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I'm not gonna count on Fasano for anything at this point. He's a journeyman at best and a constant injury risk at worst.
I was excited about the Fasano signing. Shit just didn't work out.
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I was excited about the Fasano signing. Shit just didn't work out.
The guy is a solid backup/#2. Does everything well.

Personally, I'd love Jason Witten on this offense with Smith as the QB. Money all game long, however, that ain't gonna happen as he inked a big time, five year deal in 2011 with the Cowboys.

Kelce has the same level of athleticism as Witten, and we did spend a very high third on the guy. Reid knows the family and obviously saw something in the guy that he liked. As I stated earlier, with Kelce, Fasano and McGrath, I wouldn't be spending anymore draft picks on the position until it's proven that Kelce doesn't have the potential and Fasano can't stay healthy. McGrath has been a huge boon for the team and has earned his spot. Using a pick on the TE position would be a waste, especially an early pick. We've got to find out if Kelce can play before that position is once again addressed.

However, even the casual fan knows that WR, OG and FS are serious needs. Personally, I don't think that Reid likes messing with a lineup once it's set for the season. We'll really see Commings and McDougald push at the FS spot next summer IMO. However, other than Hemmingway, there isn't anything at the WR position beyond Bowe and even he has struggled this season and at this point might be better utilized as a big slot guy much in the same way as Boldin is being utilized in San Francisco.

I think you'll see no less than two WR in this next draft in an effort to upgrade the position. You'll also see a OG and an OT somewhere as depth is needed. OG could be early in an effort to push Allen/the LOG spot. If they went OL with their first pick, my bet would be Gabe Jackson, who is a power blocking left guard who has absolutely dominated the SEC this season. (Three time SEC Lineman of the Week in 2013.) However, as I stated, if a guy like Marquis Lee or HaHa Dix fell to them, I think that they would be very tempted to take either of those players.
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Decent mock. No draft will be without criticism. The folks' bad mouthing this mock should post theirs up.



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I would bet we're not talking to him at all. He just gives one of them a pointer & notes so she can edit while another one can take short notes from the edited material all the while another one is here on the planet typing out this post & yet another is on another computer visiting the Orange Mane getting ready to fire them up...


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