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Old 08-01-2013, 01:28 PM  
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White House Extremely 'Disappointed' Russia Gave Snowden Asylum

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Obama spokesman Jay Carney said the White House is "extremely disappointed" that Russia granted Edward Snowden asylum. Early this morning, Snowden left the Moscow airport after he was granted temporary asylum by Russia.

Carney also stated that Snowden isn't a whistleblower or a dissident and described the situation as 'not a positive development' for U.S.-Russia relations. The move undermines Russia's record of law enforcement cooperation with the U.S.

The White House is considering cancelling a planned fall summit between Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

"We are extremely disappointed that the Russian government would take this step despite our very clear and lawful requests in public and private that Mr. Snowden be expelled and returned to the United States," said White House spokesman Jay Carney.

Moscow did not give any advanced notice to the White House before they announced their decision to grant a one year, temporary asylum request to Snowden. Relations between the US are already strained because of differences regarding the war in Syria, but Putin did say the request was granted contingent upon Snowden refraining from hurting U.S. interests.

This "disappointment" is a switch from Obama's cavalier attitude toward Snowden when the leaks were first brought to light. Initially, Obama dismissed Snowden and the NSA leaks to the media by saying “No, I'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker,” Obama said.

The President also said "I shouldn't have to" personally call the leaders of China and Russia to have them turn over Snowden after details of classified documents were made public.

“We've got a whole lot of business that we do with China and Russia,” Obama said. “And I'm not going to have one case of a suspect that we're trying to extradite suddenly being elevated to the point where I've got to start doing wheeling and dealing and trading on a host of other issues, simply to get a guy extradited so that he can face the Justice system here in the United States.”
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:08 PM   #16
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Whistle blowing and then running and hiding behind Putins apron isn't very honorable. If he was right he should stand his ground here, in his country.
I'd have been worried about being killed or tortured if I was him. Hard to blame him for running and trying to save his skin.
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:23 PM   #17
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:41 PM   #18
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Looks like America is playing role reversal with the former Soviet Union. Russia giving an American, an inhabitant from the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, asylum. Who woulda' ev'r thought it would come to this? That's the sorry state this country is in.

Boo-hoo hoo to the criminal sociopaths in DC on both the left and right who equate whistleblowing with espionage. The Espionage Act needs to be repealed since it has nothing to do with actual espionage.
I was thinking the same thing. I wonder how many times the Russians were extremely dissappointed that we gave someone Asylum.
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Old 08-01-2013, 06:10 PM   #19
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Whistle blowing and then running and hiding behind Putins apron isn't very honorable. If he was right he should stand his ground here, in his country.
Why is that? The deck is stacked against him. Should girls who speak out against the Taliban stay in Afghanistan?
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:21 PM   #20
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Why is that? The deck is stacked against him. Should girls who speak out against the Taliban stay in Afghanistan?
No, because the taliban rapes, mutilates, and kills women. I do not tend to believe that would happen to him here.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:21 PM   #21
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Looks like America is playing role reversal with the former Soviet Union. Russia giving an American, an inhabitant from the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, asylum. Who woulda' ev'r thought it would come to this? That's the sorry state this country is in.

Boo-hoo hoo to the criminal sociopaths in DC on both the left and right who equate whistleblowing with espionage. The Espionage Act needs to be repealed since it has nothing to do with actual espionage.
Our "great American hero" is following in the footsteps of Lee Harvey Oswald.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:22 PM   #22
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I'd have been worried about being killed or tortured if I was him. Hard to blame him for running and trying to save his skin.
But then, you are a bit of a crackpot.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:26 PM   #23
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I'd have been worried about being killed or tortured if I was him. Hard to blame him for running and trying to save his skin.
Yup! I believe NSA is exempt from whistleblower laws. This NEEDS to CHANGE. In the meantime, Snowden had no options but to leave and just get somewhere he couldn't be sent back.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:30 PM   #24
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Whistle blowing and then running and hiding behind Putins apron isn't very honorable. If he was right he should stand his ground here, in his country.
Giving up a cushy job, a gf and nice life is honorable enough. Problem is NSA is exempt from whistleblower laws. He was not SAFE remaining in America. Just like it was not SAFE for dissidents in the Soviet Union. It was a matter of survival to leave.

In fact it's still not safe, as he could be kidnapped and renditioned. Remember, the US would not extradite that CIA agent who kidnapped someone in Italy, sent him to rendition in Egypt where he was tortured then released as to having no evidence. The Italians tried him in absentia anyway. But this man is still free. Criminals sit at the top of our govt these days.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:20 PM   #25
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:28 PM   #26
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:03 AM   #27
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"So Washington harbors those who support and commit violent acts of terrorism in Russia, while demanding the return of an individual who has simply exposed a police state that has been silently gathering strength like a botulinum in the bowels of corpus Americanus."
[A]ccording to the Russian Interior Ministry, ‘Law agencies asked the US on many occasions to extradite wanted criminals through Interpol channels, but those requests were neither met nor even responded to.’ Amongst the individuals requested are militant Islamic insurgents from Chechnya, given asylum in the United States. Counterpunch
McCain Declares War on Russia
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:08 AM   #28
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"So Washington harbors those who support and commit violent acts of terrorism in Russia, while demanding the return of an individual who has simply exposed a police state that has been silently gathering strength like a botulinum in the bowels of corpus Americanus."
[A]ccording to the Russian Interior Ministry, ‘Law agencies asked the US on many occasions to extradite wanted criminals through Interpol channels, but those requests were neither met nor even responded to.’ Amongst the individuals requested are militant Islamic insurgents from Chechnya, given asylum in the United States. Counterpunch
McCain Declares War on Russia
I agree with one thing here. The US, even under Bush, was foolish to give asylum to Islamic insurgents from Chechnya. We should have used 9/11 to grow closer to Russia in alliance against the global jihad.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:09 AM   #30
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