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Old 06-07-2013, 01:14 AM  
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Rand Paul to Introduce Fourth Amendment Restoration Act of 2013

Rand Paul to Introduce Fourth Amendment Restoration Act of 2013
Mike Riggs|Jun. 6, 2013 2:24 pm

Gage SkidmoreIn the wake of reports that the NSA has collected millions of phone records from Verizon customers, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) announced today that he will introduce the Fourth Amendment Restoration Act of 2013 tomorrow, Friday, June 7. Here's the release from Paul's office:

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Sen. Rand Paul today announced he will introduce the Fourth Amendment Restoration Act of 2013, which ensures the Constitutional protections of the Fourth Amendment are not violated by any government entity.

“The revelation that the NSA has secretly seized the call records of millions of Americans, without probable cause, represents an outrageous abuse of power and a violation of the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. I have long argued that Congress must do more to restrict the Executive’s expansive law enforcement powers to seize private records of law-abiding Americans that are held by a third-party,” Sen. Paul said. “When the Senate rushed through a last-minute extension of the FISA Amendments Act late last year, I insisted on a vote on my amendment (SA 3436) to require stronger protections on business records and prohibiting the kind of data-mining this case has revealed. Just last month, I introduced S.1037, the Fourth Amendment Preservation and Protection Act, which would provide exactly the kind of protections that, if enacted, could have prevented these abuses and stopped these increasingly frequent violations of every American’s constitutional rights.

“The bill restores our Constitutional rights and declares that the Fourth Amendment shall not be construed to allow any agency of the United States government to search the phone records of Americans without a warrant based on probable cause.”

http://reason.com/blog/2013/06/06/ra...urth-amendment
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:14 AM   #2
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:40 AM   #3
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So at least ONE person realizes the 4th amendment has been ground into dust by every branch of government.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:38 AM   #4
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if you have nothing to hide, this shouldn't bother you. / Gov & Libs
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:01 AM   #5
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Seems sincere. I'll believe it actually stops the corporatist gov't when I see it happen.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:06 AM   #6
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So at least ONE person realizes the 4th amendment has been ground into dust by every branch of government.
No, there's more than ONE. Ron Paul, Judge Napolitano and many other libertarian authors have been consistently writing and reporting on such incidents. They were vilified by the right at the time.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:07 AM   #7
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if you have nothing to hide, this shouldn't bother you. / Gov & Libs
What about all the Conservatives, especially NeoCons that said that? You could just change your slash to /statists. That would cover them all both left, right and in between.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:14 AM   #8
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What about all the Conservatives, especially NeoCons that said that? You could just change your slash to /statists. That would cover them all both left, right and in between.
true. I should've left out the Lib part.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:21 AM   #9
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Nothings gonna change in Wash DC. It's rotted out. The only way America survives is to seceed from it.

Every state needs to tell the federal government "I no longer recognize you as a legitimate power" and stop all federal taxes of it's citizens.

Until that happens, what you see now you will continue to see and it will continue to get worse.

We do it now and get this over with, or wait when things will be alot worse and alot more violent.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:26 AM   #10
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I applaud Paul for his efforts, but as Hilliary would say "what does it matter"? The problem isn't in the law, as last I checked, the 4th amendment was still there. The problem is no one is enforcing the law, going as far as to allow new, unconstitutional bills to be passed and stand. In other words, even if Paul gets this bill passed, nothing will happen because no one in our executive branch will abide by it and apparently few judges are willing to rule in favor of it.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:27 AM   #11
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Nothings gonna change in Wash DC. It's rotted out. The only way America survives is to seceed from it.
You know what I saw, a poll where people in the greater DC area, were happy they were not suffering from a recession. It's true too. I have had to work a lot in that area in the past several months, Virginia/Maryland, and they were living high on the hog. Well maybe it will cease in liberal-left Maryland if they pass that "Rain Tax!"
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:29 AM   #12
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I applaud Paul for his efforts, but as Hilliary would say "what does it matter"? The problem isn't in the law, as last I checked, the 4th amendment was still there. The problem is no one is enforcing the law, going as far as to allow new, unconstitutional bills to be passed and stand. In other words, even if Paul gets this bill passed, nothing will happen because no one in our executive branch will abide by it and apparently few judges are willing to rule in favor of it.
That's also true. At least it draws some attention. Gotta start there.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:50 AM   #13
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I applaud Paul for his efforts, but as Hilliary would say "what does it matter"? The problem isn't in the law, as last I checked, the 4th amendment was still there. The problem is no one is enforcing the law, going as far as to allow new, unconstitutional bills to be passed and stand. In other words, even if Paul gets this bill passed, nothing will happen because no one in our executive branch will abide by it and apparently few judges are willing to rule in favor of it.
Exactly.

The Vichy Regime is as responsible as Obama why Susan Rice, Hilary Clinton, Lois Lerner, Erich Holder et al are not only still employed, but not in jail.

They can put on all the dog and pony shows they want, they have no integrity or credibility.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:55 AM   #14
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Rand Paul will be one of the first to go in the concentration camps, or simply not heard of again.

The Night of the Long Knives part two Obama style.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:20 AM   #15
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And here I thought that the Fourth Amendment ensured the Constitutional protections of the Fourth Amendment are not violated by any government entity.

Obviously that isn't the case. But it should be.
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