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Old 06-06-2013, 08:09 PM  
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:27 PM   #61
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:27 PM   #62
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Bush actually went after the people who declared war on us, muslim terrorists.
Actually it was BinLaden that declared war in the 1990's by issuing a fatwa. Still, his AQ was a very small group at the time when Bush was in office. What's Obama's excuse since he killed bin Laden?
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:29 PM   #63
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Absolutely true, I took a visit to Maulthausen a few years back and it showed the statistics of who was imprisoned. It was interesting that the Third Reich was imprisoning local Catholic dissenters long before the Holocaust of the Jews achieved momentum.
Meanwhile, leftists, particularly communists keep alleging the Pope at the time was an ally of Hitler.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:38 PM   #64
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Until people can accept that the system has been corrupted, nothing will ever change. We will only get the childish, never ending Republican vs Democrat, Conservative vs Liberal arguments.

9/11 was used as a tool to corrupt the system and people from both parties were jumping all over each other to prove they were more patriotic and cared more about 'Murica than the other.
From my perspective, democrats didn't really put much effort into seeming patriotic for much more than a few weeks after 9/11.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:39 PM   #65
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Denise was right.
She's a smart women her style just is wrong for trying to change minds.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:41 PM   #66
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First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me. "

Nothing to worry about. The communists and socialists are doing fine now.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:45 PM   #67
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Everyone wants to blame Obama for this, yet forget it was all started by George W. Bush. BOTH parties got this shit storm rolling. It's going to take people who are willing to give and take on their personal issues for us to get it back on track. Everyone will have to sacrifice something to achieve a common goal here.
Yes, Obama is just along for the ride. There are no bucks stopping in this administration.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:47 PM   #68
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Yes, Obama is just along for the ride. There are no bucks stopping in this administration.
Its too bad you weren't this outspoken when bush was presisent. Hopefully you've learned once rights are taken its hard to get them back.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:59 PM   #69
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I am a newbie here, I have nothing to go on. I am however capable of forming my own opinions.
Don't worry about it. I had a long time poster neg rep me for a blatantly obviously sarcastic comment, because he's just too stupid to get it. Your mistake was understandable. Shit happens.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:03 PM   #70
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It's not really fair to compare Obama to President Bush.

Bush was also a dumbass but he didn't load his cabinet with criminals and crooks and wasn't mentored by domestic terrorists. Obama is a dumbass on purpose.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:05 PM   #71
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Its too bad you weren't this outspoken when bush was presisent. Hopefully you've learned once rights are taken its hard to get them back.
What are you talking about? Bush took more than his share of responsibility. His administration was the complete opposite of Obama's in that respect. Bush was Trumanesque when it came taking responsibility. Obama is the guy who doesn't know what's going on when things go wrong but he's sure it's someone else's fault.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:09 PM   #72
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Bush was the decider. He took responsibility for the decisions made by his administration, often standing up and defending them even when they were immensely unpopular (e.g. the surge in Iraq).

Obama is the resider. He just lives there.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:43 PM   #73
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From my perspective, democrats didn't really put much effort into seeming patriotic for much more than a few weeks after 9/11.
Not enough lapel pins for ya?

How are you measuring that?
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:54 PM   #74
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Bush was the decider. He took responsibility for the decisions made by his administration, often standing up and defending them even when they were immensely unpopular (e.g. the surge in Iraq).

Obama is the resider. He just lives there.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:06 PM   #75
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Dumb video, but it does bring to mind another huge difference between Bush and Obama. It's not as relevant to the thread, but GWB was a lot more capable of laughing at himself than BO is.
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