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Old 06-06-2013, 05:10 PM  
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/6/440...t-others-prism

NSA, FBI have backdoors to data from Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, others according to leaked security presentation

Five-year-old program provides government with direct access to email, messages, browser history, more

By Dan Seifert on June 6, 2013 06:04 pm

The US National Security Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation have been harvesting data such as audio, video, photographs, emails, and documents from the internal servers of nine major technology companies, according to a leaked 41-slide security presentation obtained by The Washington Post and The Guardian. The program, codenamed PRISM, is considered highly classified and has never been made public before. The list of companies involved in it are the who's who of Silicon Valley: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple. Dropbox, though not yet an official part of the program, is said to be joining it soon. These companies have all willingly participated in the program, says the Post.

According to the leaked presentation, the program has been in action since 2007, and is considered the biggest contributor to the daily briefings given to the President, providing data in 1,477 articles last year alone. Allegedly, nearly one in seven intelligence reports from the NSA contains data from the PRISM program. The NSA has the ability to pull any sort of data it likes from these companies, but it claims that it does not try to collect it all. The PRISM program goes above and beyond the existing laws that state companies must comply with government requests for data, as it gives the NSA direct access to each companies servers essentially letting the NSA do as it pleases. The program was initiated to overcome what the NSA saw as constraints within the existing Fisa warrant program that did not allow the agency to make us of the "home-field advantage" provided by having most of the internet's biggest companies on US soil.

"The who's who of Silicon Valley are involved in the NSA's PRISM program"

Microsoft was the first company to bow to the government's wishes and join the PRISM program in 2007, while Apple held out for five years before agreeing. Though Google and Facebook are a part of PRISM, Twitter has not yet joined. Apparently, the only Congress members that knew about PRISM's existence were bound by oath not to speak of it publicly. In a statement provided to both The Washington Post and The Guardian, Google denied that the government had any sort of back door access to its systems: "Google cares deeply about the security of our users' data. We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government 'back door' into our systems, but Google does not have a 'back door' for the government to access private user data."

The training documents for the program reveal that the NSA collects a large amount of data on the American public through the PRISM program. For example, if a specific target is investigated using PRISM, that target's complete inbox and outbox is swept, in addition to anyone that is connected to it. This high-level of access was initially given to the NSA by President Bush and was later renewed in 2012 by President Obama.

According to The Washington Post, the program's slides were provided by a "career intelligence officer" that had "firsthand experience with these systems, and horror at their capabilities," and wished to expose the programs "gross intrusion on privacy." This report follows the news from earlier this week of the NSA's involvement in collecting call data and records from Verizon in another massive surveillance partnership.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:43 PM   #31
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So the Justice Department and the IRS were used against the Republican enemies. This too?
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:45 PM   #32
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"How did the government keep this a secret? No way could they pull something off like this with so many people knowing... Kooks!!" [/CP]
People that were informed knew. This wasn't really a secret, just not common knowledge and talked about in the mainstream media.

If congress knew, a shitload of people knew.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:53 PM   #33
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People that were informed knew. This wasn't really a secret, just not common knowledge and talked about in the mainstream media.

If congress knew, a shitload of people knew.
I'm mocking with every post on here so far... people couldn't FATHOM the idea of any of these "conspiracies" being true.

The rabbit hole is a lot deeper than many are willing to dive into.

When you realize that the biggest trustees of the Federal Reserve Bank, the "Four Horsemen of Banking" (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the "Four Horsemen of Oil" (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths. Corruption is easy to fathom.

But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.

According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation.

And they are the ones who fund the campaigns of their puppet politicians... it's a never-ending cycle of greed, power and corruption.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:39 PM   #34
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yup.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:41 PM   #35
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I'm mocking with every post on here so far... people couldn't FATHOM the idea of any of these "conspiracies" being true.

The rabbit hole is a lot deeper than many are willing to dive into.

When you realize that the biggest trustees of the Federal Reserve Bank, the "Four Horsemen of Banking" (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the "Four Horsemen of Oil" (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths. Corruption is easy to fathom.

But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.

According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation.

And they are the ones who fund the campaigns of their puppet politicians... it's a never-ending cycle of greed, power and corruption.
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I'm mocking with every post on here so far... people couldn't FATHOM the idea of any of these "conspiracies" being true.

The rabbit hole is a lot deeper than many are willing to dive into.
I'm not on board with your conspiracies.

The rich and powerful want to stay rich and powerful. Thats not a conspiracy, thats just a fact of all our recorded history.
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When you realize that the biggest trustees of the Federal Reserve Bank, the "Four Horsemen of Banking" (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the "Four Horsemen of Oil" (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths. Corruption is easy to fathom.

But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.

According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation.

And they are the ones who fund the campaigns of their puppet politicians... it's a never-ending cycle of greed, power and corruption.
As I said....... the rich and powerful want to stay rich and powerful
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:59 PM   #37
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I'm mocking with every post on here so far... people couldn't FATHOM the idea of any of these "conspiracies" being true.

The rabbit hole is a lot deeper than many are willing to dive into.

When you realize that the biggest trustees of the Federal Reserve Bank, the "Four Horsemen of Banking" (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the "Four Horsemen of Oil" (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths. Corruption is easy to fathom.

But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.

According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation.

And they are the ones who fund the campaigns of their puppet politicians... it's a never-ending cycle of greed, power and corruption.
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:21 AM   #39
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I know of two terrorist attacks that were prevented on Americans because of this database and data mining.

There are at least hundreds, if not thousands of dead americans if the plan was executed correctly. Americans alive today because of this info.

Just saying, there is a benefit to this information. This has been going on since the Patriot act passed. Congress knew, the courts knew. This is not an Obama thing. It's a national security thing.

Now, a righteous agrument could be made that who gives a shit about preventing terrorists plots, take the back doors out.
Microsoft is one of the NSA's partners. The new XBOX can read your eyes and measure when you watch an ad. It knows when you're home, and is on all the time.

They can read all your communications, track your movements, see all your financial transactions etc. Do you really think this is a tool for terrorism? Do you think the politicians in control of this won't use it?
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