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Old 05-15-2013, 03:52 PM  
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Ancient Mayan pyramid destroyed for road fill

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Ancient Mayan pyramid destroyed for road fill

By Brad Lendon, CNN
updated 12:18 PM EDT, Wed May 15, 2013

(CNN) -- A Mayan pyramid that has stood for 2,300 years in Belize has been reduced to rubble, apparently to make fill for roads.

Local media in the Central American country of 334,000 people report the temple at the Noh Mul site in northern Belize was largely torn down by backhoes and bulldozers last week.

"This is one of the worst that I have seen in my entire 25 years of archaeology in Belize," John Morris, an archaeologist with the country's Institute of Archaeology, told local channel 7NewsBelize. "We can't salvage what has happened out here -- it is an incredible display of ignorance."

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The pyramid was the center of a settlement of about 40,000 people and 81 buildings over 12 square miles, according to 7NewsBelize. It stood about 65 feet tall and was built around 250 B.C. with hand-cut limestone bricks, archaeologists said.

The limestone is quality material used to upgrade local roads, and it's prized by contractors, local opposition legislator John Briceno told CTV3 News.

"The Mayas use good material to build their temples, and these temples are close to (the village of) Douglas so that means that they have to use less diesel, less wear and tear; they can do more trips per day, and at the end of the day they can make more money," CTV3 quotes Briceno as saying.

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"Like a huge palace or building or a huge temple, it would have had many rooms in there, multilayered rooms so you have rooms for people living, and you would also had several tombs in there of the people who lived in this area here," Morris told 7NewsBelize.

Awe said archaeologists would try to go through the rubble for artifacts.

"I'm hoping that there will be bits and pieces that we can acquire from any kind of work that we do there. But to say that we can try to preserve the building anymore; that is impossible," he told News5.

The mound sits on private land, and archaeologists said they would ask police to take action against both the landowner and contractor, according to reports.

"It is against the law; it is against the nature act to willfully destroy an ancient monument," Awe told News5. "Any willful destruction of an ancient site or monument has penalties of 10 years' imprisonment or $10,000 for this kind of destruction."
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You know, I never really thought about it, but of course stuff like this happens...
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:07 AM   #31
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Don't know why all these tree-huggers are getting pissed, it's just a pile of rocks.

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Old 05-16-2013, 09:10 AM   #32
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I'm assuming that this pyramid was not discovered last year.

Yeah they shouldn't have done it, but what I'm wondering, is why haven't archeologists ever gotten around to studying the site, searching for artifacts, etc. before now?
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:31 AM   #33
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Not to say that we shouldn't do everything possible to preserve ancient sites like this.. But this site wasn't exactly a "Temple" like most people would imagine when thinking of that. It was just a mound of rocks. No secret rooms, and no elaborate structures. There wasn't really anything else to be learned from this site. No further study was really necessary. So preserving this would have been just for historic sentimental purposes.



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Old 05-16-2013, 09:51 AM   #34
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You could make the same argument about the Great Pyramid in Egypt too, though. "Historic sentiment" is also known as culture and identity, which is why it's illegal to bulldoze pre-Hispanic structures in Belize, even if they're on private property, as this one was.

Also, see that hole in the rock, near the top? That was a secret room.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:53 AM   #35
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You're really comparing this to the Great Pyramid?

Cause that doesn't work.....
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:02 AM   #36
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They probably would have built a more impressive structure if they had a better road nearby.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:05 AM   #37
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:06 AM   #38
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[quote=Fish;9686519]Not to say that we shouldn't do everything possible to preserve ancient sites like this.. But this site wasn't exactly a "Temple" like most people would imagine when thinking of that. It was just a mound of rocks. No secret rooms, and no elaborate structures. There wasn't really anything else to be learned from this site. No further study was really necessary. So preserving this would have been just for historic sentimental purposes.



Tear that piece of shit DOWN.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:07 AM   #39
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This was done in Ancient rome too - I remember seeing the places in the marble pillars where they would cut into it and some half standing ruins / structures

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Old 05-16-2013, 10:08 AM   #40
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:16 AM   #41
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Based on those pics Fish posted, I'd say they ****ed up no matter what. Even if it were no longer culturally significant and offered no more knowledge to be attained, there isn't a ****ing thing on either side of that pyramid. Seems to me they could have easy made the road a football field in either direction and saved the site.

I didn't read the article so maybe I missed something.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:17 AM   #42
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This is El Jefe's fault. He was stealing rocks to build his custom house he's been yammering on about.
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Based on those pics Fish posted, I'd say they ****ed up no matter what. Even if it were no longer culturally significant and offered no more knowledge to be attained, there isn't a ****ing thing on either side of that pyramid. Seems to me they could have easy made the road a football field in either direction and saved the site.

I didn't read the article so maybe I missed something.
No one is saying it was in the way. They wanted the limestone for road-building material. Hell, even the thread title pretty much said that.
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