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Old 04-19-2014, 01:55 PM  
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Crow's 4.19 Mock

1-023 : Jimmie Ward - FS - Northern Illinois
5'11" 193



I'm going to call Ward a FS because that is where he is best suited to play in the NFL regardless of what his "official" position was in college. He's a rangy defender that was asked to play quite a bit of man coverage and high coverage, whether as a safety or down as the nickle defender. He's got adequate size and range to play the single-high position and great ball and tackling skills to keep the long plays the Chiefs saw last year from happening again. The only prospect that might be a better fit is HaSean Clinton-Dix of Alabama, but it is likely he will be long gone by #23. Ward fills the biggest void on KC's defense with an Earl Thomas like player. If you think I would trust Sanders Commings to start, you're nuts. I like the ability the Chiefs would have to bring Abdullah in to do a variety of things if they draft Ward.

3-087 : Trai Turner - OG - Louisiana State
6'3" 310



All the talk of late about Yankey and Richardson and all these guards "sliding down draft boards" may be true to some extent, but with all the teams that need guards in this draft, expecting them to slide all the way to #87 is a pipe dream at best. In that case, I'd take a guard that should be in that conversation in the third round, whether the draftniks think it so or not. Trai Turner does everything well, he can move people in the run game, he can hold up in the pass game, he can get to the second level and block in space, he can pull and trap, and the list goes on. This kid reminds me alot in play and physical ability of a young Will Shields. Whether or not he'll become a Will Shields will be a story for a dozen years from now, but the skill set is most certainly there and I think NFL teams are going to recognize it. The biggest hole offensively for the Chiefs in my mind is not at receiver, its at guard. Linkebach is not a good player, and the expectation that he and Allen are going to form a good duo is like a bad dream come reality in my opinion. Both are immediately replaceable.

4-124 : Mike Davis - WR - Texas
6'0" 197



The Chiefs do have an obvious need to upgrade the receiver position, but I'm not convinced they have to go all in on it with a first round pick to make a difference. Besides, if Dorsey learned anything at all from Ron Wolf, its that you don't have to spend 1st round picks on receivers to get good ones. Davis is a solid prospect for this team. He aligns with what Reid looks for in a receiver physically and in terms of ability. He's a near clone to his former 1st round pick, Jeremy Maclin. He also nearly identical to another receiver KC has been said to have interest in, Marqise Lee. You know this kid will be on the radar, and he'd be a great value pick. Davis has flashed speed, quickness, a good catch radius, and the ability to pluck the ball away from his body.

5-163 : Travis Carrie - CB - Ohio
6'0" 207



The lack of high quality defensive back depth for KC was apparent last year, even with the emergence of Marcus Cooper. The signing of Chris Owens should take some pressure off the team in the nickle, but the Chiefs still have to think long term with about the cap situation with Flowers and Smith. Carrie is a lock down man defender that does it all well. If he hadn't lost his Junior season to injury, I'd be willing to bet he'd be in the day 2 conversation. Carrie has size, speed, agility, explosiveness, he tackles well, he's a leader, he's a special teams ace, and I could go on. He's one of the better corner prospects not being talked about in my opinion.

6-193 : Khyri Thornton - DT - Southern Mississippi
6'3" 304



Thornton really looks the part of a 3-4 defensive end. He is accustomed to taking on double-teams during his time at Southern Miss, and he looked good doing it. He was nearly unblockable one-on-one, so that is a huge plus. Scouts won't be able to glance at his stat line to see how productive a player he was, but a good scouting team will see the huge potential he has to be an anchor at defensive end.

6-200 : Charles Siddoway - OT - Mississippi State
6'5" 301



Perhaps the shadow of Gabe Jackson is so large that Siddoway doesn't get talked about, but he's a hell of a solid prospect in his own right. Siddoway moves well and can drive a pile in the run game. I like this kid a ton as a right tackle/offensive guard prospect. We'll see if he can hold up to edge rushers in the NFL on the right side, but I'd have no reservations moving this kid inside if not.

How they fit:

QB Alex Smith Chase Daniel Tyler Bray
RB Jamaal Charles Knile Davis
FB Anthony Sherman
TE Anthony Fasano Travis Kelce Sean McGrath
WR Dwayne Bowe Mike Davis Junior Hemmingway
WR Donnie Avery A.J. Jenkins
LT Eric Fisher
LG Trai Turner Jeff Allen
OC Rodney Hudson Eric Kush
RG Jeff Linkenbach Rishaw Johnson
RT Donald Stepheson Charles Siddoway
DE Vance Walker Mike Catapano
DE Mike DeVito Allen Bailey Khyri Thornton
NT Dontari Poe Jaye Howard
OLB Tamba Hali Dezman Moses
ILB Derrick Johnson James-Michael Johnson
ILB Joe Mays Nico Johnson
OLB Justin Houston Frank Zombo Josh Martin
CB Sean Smith Ron Parker Travis Carrie
CB Brandon Flowers Marcus Cooper Chris Owens
FS Jimmie Ward Sanders Commings
SS Eric Berry Husain Abdullah
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Old 04-19-2014, 06:14 PM   #2
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ok draft i guess. your last 3 prospects are names I'm not that familiar with. thanks for sharing.
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Old 04-20-2014, 12:41 AM   #3
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I love the draft, although I don't like the depth at nose tackle. I don't think Jaye Howard is the guy to keep Poe from getting gassed this year.
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Old 04-20-2014, 04:54 AM   #4
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Trai Turner is NOT a starting NFL guard. He shouldn't be as a rookie, anyway. If he is, we've got BIG problems, coupled with the fact that Linkenbach would start on the other side of him.

If Turner and Linkenbach start, we'll have massive OLine problems. HUGE ones. And then people will bitch about it, and we'll be in this exact same ****ing position next offseason, looking to draft two NEW ****ing guards with high draft picks.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:13 PM   #5
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Trai Turner is NOT a starting NFL guard. He shouldn't be as a rookie, anyway. If he is, we've got BIG problems, coupled with the fact that Linkenbach would start on the other side of him.

If Turner and Linkenbach start, we'll have massive OLine problems. HUGE ones. And then people will bitch about it, and we'll be in this exact same ****ing position next offseason, looking to draft two NEW ****ing guards with high draft picks.
For starters, I disagree. To top it off, Jeff Allen is one of the worst guards in the NFL and Linkenbach isn't much better. I don't think you'd see much drop off starting a rookie.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:18 PM   #6
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I love the draft, although I don't like the depth at nose tackle. I don't think Jaye Howard is the guy to keep Poe from getting gassed this year.
I think Beau Allen from Wisconsin is an underrated nose tackle prospect. The difference in their D when he was in the game vs out was stark. Stout on the line and provides a little rush, too. Will probably be available in the 6th.
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Old 04-21-2014, 09:42 PM   #7
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I think Beau Allen from Wisconsin is an underrated nose tackle prospect. The difference in their D when he was in the game vs out was stark. Stout on the line and provides a little rush, too. Will probably be available in the 6th.
Allen is a big, silly sumabitch.

Guy can plug a hole though.

Personally, I think that Ryan Carrethers from Arkansas State is the guy to look at for the NT position later in the draft.

Former wrestler (understands leverage, e.g., Ted Washington, Kelly Gregg), is strong as bull and has a real nose for the play/ball. He's very instinctive in diagnosing the play and gets to the carrier while doing his job in occupying the OL. Has gotten better every single year and was, quite literally, dominant at times this past season. (16 tackles in a single game, 93 total tackles, 8 tfl, 4 sacks) Like Dontari Poe, he was basically a one man gang for the Red Wolves and I think his best football is ahead of him, especially when you pair him with legit NFL level LBs & DEs.

IMO, he's one of the most underrated/dark horse players in this draft.

Oh, and pretty good draft OP. I'd rather trade back into the top of the second and get Ward versus spending the #23 on him, and like others have stated, I'm not totally sold on Trai Turner as an NFL guard, but I really like the other picks.
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For starters, I disagree. To top it off, Jeff Allen is one of the worst guards in the NFL and Linkenbach isn't much better. I don't think you'd see much drop off starting a rookie.
If we draft a guard, it's to start opposite Allen.

Linkenbach's on a one-year deal for dirt ****ing cheap. That's not the kind of offer you make to a starter. Geoff Schwartz at least got more than a cool million to play for one season. And if Dorsey did bring him aboard because he viewed him as a dirt cheap starting option, why didn't he try to bring him aboard for multiple seasons? Christ, he did that with Dunta Robinson. Get some goddamn continuity on this team.

Linkenbach is NOT going to be our starter. He's there to be a reserve. That's ****ing it.

Sorry if you hate Allen. I'm not an Allen supporter, but for ****'s sake, this team has way bigger fish to fry than quelling about Allen's missing the horizon of expectations. Jeff Allen is the starter at LG next year like it or not. And Linkenbach (if injuries don't screw us over) will ideally not see the field for one single goddamn meaningful offensive snap.

Rishaw Johnson is the starter. Get used to it.
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If we draft a guard, it's to start opposite Allen.

Linkenbach's on a one-year deal for dirt ****ing cheap. That's not the kind of offer you make to a starter. Geoff Schwartz at least got more than a cool million to play for one season. And if Dorsey did bring him aboard because he viewed him as a dirt cheap starting option, why didn't he try to bring him aboard for multiple seasons? Christ, he did that with Dunta Robinson. Get some goddamn continuity on this team.

Linkenbach is NOT going to be our starter. He's there to be a reserve. That's ****ing it.

Sorry if you hate Allen. I'm not an Allen supporter, but for ****'s sake, this team has way bigger fish to fry than quelling about Allen's missing the horizon of expectations. Jeff Allen is the starter at LG next year like it or not. And Linkenbach (if injuries don't screw us over) will ideally not see the field for one single goddamn meaningful offensive snap.

Rishaw Johnson is the starter. Get used to it.
I wouldn't discount Roke Watkins either. Guy was a former first team All-SEC player (2011) and has skills. If he decides to show up and dedicate himself, he's a pretty talented guy with a lot of upside.
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If Jeff Linkenbach is a starter at guard for Week 1 while Jeff Allen and Rishaw Johnson are still healthy, I'll change my username to Susan for the rest of the season.
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If Jeff Linkenbach is a starter at guard for Week 1 while Jeff Allen and Rishaw Johnson are still healthy, I'll change my username to Susan for the rest of the season.
Ideally, neither Linkebach nor Allen would be on an NFL field, more or less starting. Pick your poison. Allen sucks ****ing sack. Linkenbach sucks sack. I don't care what one is replaced, but I"d much rather both. I do like the idea of calling you Susan just because.
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