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Old 05-03-2013, 11:36 AM  
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Article: why the Jags took Joeckel (Some of it would apply to Fisher)

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...While the Jaguars already had one talented offensive tackle in Eugene Monroe (whom Caldwell called a "top 10 tackle"), both schools of thought said they'd be much better off with two. Caldwell emphasized the rising importance of the right tackle in a league where defensive coordinators are becoming more varied and creative in exploiting weaknesses, and Khan turned to a ProFootballFocus.com study compiled by Steve Palazzolo showing the right tackle had become just as important as the left tackle. Worlds colliding....

...Part of it, too, was the position itself. According to Khan's data, 71 percent of tackles drafted in the top 10 from 1995 to 2008 have made at least one Pro Bowl, while only 16 percent of tackles drafted between 11 and 32 over that period did the same. Also, top-10 tackles drafted from 1990 to 2008 averaged a staggering 70.5 starts in their first five years, a number that dipped to 58.5 starts for those drafted from 11 to 32.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ls-debut-draft
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:36 AM   #2
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:38 AM   #3
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:38 AM   #4
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It was a terrible move. The fact is Khan refused to look at all the W-L records of these teams that drafted these tackles in the top 10. I bet it's well under .500. You can't justify that BS. You really can't. That pick was the last straw that made me give up on that organization.
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What does it say about teams who draft two top-5 defensive linemen outta LSU? How do those players perform in the League?
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What does it say about teams who draft two top-5 defensive linemen outta LSU? How do those players perform in the League?
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:41 AM   #7
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It was a terrible move. The fact is Khan refused to look at all the W-L records of these teams that drafted these tackles in the top 10. I bet it's well under .500. You can't justify that BS. You really can't. That pick was the last straw that made me give up on that organization.
I'd bet that the W-L record of teams that draft in the top 10 is poor regardless of what position they select.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:42 AM   #8
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It was a terrible move. The fact is Khan refused to look at all the W-L records of these teams that drafted these tackles in the top 10. I bet it's well under .500. You can't justify that BS. You really can't. That pick was the last straw that made me give up on that organization.
If they were drafting in the top ten, they were just bad. Maybe that has something to do with being under .500, even after drafting a tackle. One guy isn't going to fix everything.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:42 AM   #9
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I'd bet that the W-L record of teams that draft in the top 10 is poor regardless of what position they select.
I bet you're right.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:47 AM   #10
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:47 AM   #11
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Here's a nugget from the article that could probably go in a GENO!!!! thread. When you consider who the Jaguars have at QB, this isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of the 2013 QB class.

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"We worked out five or six quarterbacks, spent time with them," Caldwell said. "And we'd evaluated what we had in Blaine and Chad (Henne), and we felt like the important thing was to solidify the roster first. We do that, get some help around them, and give them a fair shot to play well. And we really felt like -- with our first-, second-, third-, fourth-round picks -- we got incrementally better at those positions. We weren't 100 percent sure we'd get better at the quarterback position with guys at those spots."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ls-debut-draft

The Jacksonville Jaguars, with Blaine Gabbert at the helm, weren't sure if any of this year's QBs would be an upgrade.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:51 AM   #12
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because the talent at the top of the draft dictated Olineman?

a ton of teams did the same because the draft was weak
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:53 AM   #13
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:55 AM   #14
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I'd bet that the W-L record of teams that draft in the top 10 is poor regardless of what position they select.
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If they were drafting in the top ten, they were just bad. Maybe that has something to do with being under .500, even after drafting a tackle. One guy isn't going to fix everything.
Guys...I meant after they drafted said OT. I want to know the records of all those teams for however long that player played for them. I'm saying that record is under .500.

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Here's a nugget from the article that could probably go in a GENO!!!! thread. When you consider who the Jaguars have at QB, this isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of the 2013 QB class.



http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ls-debut-draft

The Jacksonville Jaguars, with Blaine Gabbert at the helm, weren't sure if any of this year's QBs would be an upgrade.
And this is why I'm a Chief.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:56 AM   #15
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