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View Poll Results: How would you classify yourself?
1 - Homer 7 2.44%
2 - Optimist 85 29.62%
3 - Balanced 116 40.42%
4 - Pessimist 67 23.34%
5 - Naysayer 8 2.79%
Generic Alternate Zresponse 4 1.39%
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:30 AM  
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Let's talk about "true fans"

Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made.

The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days:

1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this.

2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel.

3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out.

4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do.

5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up.

Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success.

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Old 05-04-2013, 03:30 PM   #151
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Yeah there are other Chiefs forums. If you don't like it, make your own forum. Ask AC for advice and steps.
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Old 05-04-2013, 03:34 PM   #152
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Yeah there are other Chiefs forums. If you don't like it, make your own forum. Ask AC for advice and steps.
I love that people keep saying this given that he's one of the optimists around here.
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Old 05-04-2013, 03:47 PM   #153
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I find this place amusing.

I don't live in KC and I would say the vast majority of KC fans that I've met here on the East Coast are nothing like the people who are the vocal minority you find on Chiefs Planet.

I find this place quickly becomes an echo chamber as a very hostile and vocal minority soon try to shut down conversations that do not specifically match up with the vocal minorities opinions. Which, I guess is the nature of bulletin boards, but very much not the reason we all left the Star, which was to find a place where we could say what we wanted without the Star's censors shutting us down. Now days, it's a very vocal minority that tries to shut down most conversations usually through belittling insults.

I don't remember Austin Chief setting this place up so that 30 people could pretty much tell everyone else who was or wasn't a good Chiefs fan.

However, since Chiefs Planet is probably one of the best places to get KC news faster than waiting for one of the usual places (ESPN, NFL.com, CBS) to finally deem KC worth writing about, I'll keep hanging around. Plus, there are some people here who are actually fun to hang out with, both on line and in person. But I also can understand why people leave or take sabbaticals from this place.

I'm a Chiefs fan.

If you want to try and pigeon-hole me into your per-conceived notion of what a fan is, go right ahead. Your and idiot (<--lexicon approved), but you have the right to be an idiot.
Hey.....an MCF sighting! Good to see you old friend.

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Old 05-04-2013, 04:07 PM   #154
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Hey.....an MCF sighting! Good to see you old friend.

And well said.
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:11 PM   #155
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I love that people keep saying this given that he's one of the optimists around here.
I'm of the conclusion that Setsuna is a troll that benefits this site the same way herpes benefits the host. The fact that the newly joined little turd is giving advice about who should stay or who should go makes my skin crawl.

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Old 05-04-2013, 11:42 PM   #156
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I have been here since 2000 really, came over with another user name from the Star Board and just lurked. I think my username was ChiefsfanandVet or something like that.

I then left for a bit and came back and registered in 2003 as Marcellus.

Being around here almost from inception I know this isn't a kiddy playground and its not for homers.

That being said I also feel a have a right to voice my disgust with vapid turd munchers like yourself.
And I don't care if you've been here since Moses came strolling down the mountaintop; this site champions fans that have had it up their tightened schpincters with the constant flow of bullshit emanating from One Arrowhead Drive. There are several common denominators that the Chiefs are too goddamned stupid to recognize, and it is our Holy Mission in life to expose and ridicule them until they finally learn the error of their ways. If you happen to be on the bombing range, waving your little red and gold pom-poms in the process, then don't cry when your guts are blown all over the ground. Homer.
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:44 PM   #157
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A ****stick who joined 3 years ago telling people who is and isn't welcome here?

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And I don't care if you've been here since Moses came strolling down the mountaintop; this site champions fans that have had it up their tightened schpincters with the constant flow of bullshit emanating from One Arrowhead Drive. There are several common denominators that the Chiefs are too goddamned stupid to recognize, and it is our Holy Mission in life to expose and ridicule them until they finally learn the error of their ways. If you happen to be on the bombing range, waving your little red and gold pom-poms in the process, then don't cry when your guts are blown all over the ground. Homer.
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You really need to get over yourself.
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:58 PM   #159
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The Chiefs really need to stop being themselves.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:49 AM   #162
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I'm shocked that less than 30% of this website counts themselves as pessimists
I'm shocked that there's actually a person in this world who roots for Alice Smiff and Tebow at the same time. Do you really enjoy mediocrity?
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Old 05-05-2013, 03:39 AM   #163
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And I don't care if you've been here since Moses came strolling down the mountaintop; this site champions fans that have had it up their tightened schpincters with the constant flow of bullshit emanating from One Arrowhead Drive. There are several common denominators that the Chiefs are too goddamned stupid to recognize, and it is our Holy Mission in life to expose and ridicule them until they finally learn the error of their ways. If you happen to be on the bombing range, waving your little red and gold pom-poms in the process, then don't cry when your guts are blown all over the ground. Homer.
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This site doesn't champion shit. You don't champion shit. You don't speak for shit. And you ain't bombing shit.

If the Chiefs can have hispter douchebag fans, you are just such a 'fan.' Except, not content to flip your bangs and mutter, you think you are swinging a baby-arm around the joint while you're just swiveling your hips and letting your vienna sausage sway.
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Old 05-05-2013, 04:19 AM   #164
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This site doesn't champion shit. You don't champion shit. You don't speak for shit. And you ain't bombing shit.

If the Chiefs can have hispter douchebag fans, you are just such a 'fan.' Except, not content to flip your bangs and mutter, you think you are swinging a baby-arm around the joint while you're just swiveling your hips and letting your vienna sausage sway.
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Old 05-05-2013, 04:41 AM   #165
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Huge difference between Pessimist and Naysayer when comes to CP


Considering history, every Chiefs fan should be a pessimist because we have sucked for so long.

This place is full of naysayers who will bitch about anything and everything because they enjoy doing so.
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