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Old 04-30-2013, 07:50 PM  
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-brian-waters/

Longtime guard Brian Waters is officially done with the Patriots.

The daily NFL transactions list that was circulated to the media on Tuesday included a note that Waters had been terminated from the Patriotsí reserve/did not report list. That makes him an unrestricted free agent.

A six-time Pro Bowler who played for the Chiefs from 2000 to 2010, Waters signed with the Patriots in 2011 and played very well for them, providing some stability on their offensive line and starting all 19 games up to and including the Super Bowl. But he reportedly wanted a raise that the Patriots werenít willing to give him in 2012, and he never reported to the team.

The 36-year-old Waters is now free to see if any other team will pay him what he wanted the Patriots to pay him. More likely, he has played his last NFL game.

"Iíve heard rumors that he wants to come back to KC to play had they never signed Scott ***** he would have never left! I say bring him back for 1 more yr!"
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:16 AM   #31
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:22 AM   #32
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I loved Willie Roaf as a left tackle, but I would not hire him to decorate my home:

http://www.realtor.com/blogs/2012/12...ark-mansion-2/
"An absolute STEAL at merely 2 million...."

Jesus, I'd be afraid to touch anything in that house for fear of getting it even the slightest bit dirty.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:23 AM   #33
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:27 AM   #34
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"An absolute STEAL at merely 2 million...."

Jesus, I'd be afraid to touch anything in that house for fear of getting it even the slightest bit dirty.
That, and the furniture seems pretty generic and mismatched. All that white would drive me crazy, though.

I also find it notable that he has all those helmets on the bookshelf in his office, with the Chiefs on the top shelf, and I don't see a Saints helmet at all. I'm thinking he's still not very happy with New Orleans.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:30 AM   #35
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Ray Lewis' house has more style, though what's the deal with those dining room chairs? And the ceiling would make me think that I'm living in a big beehive. However, a grand piano always looks good, and he's got some nice views.

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Old 05-01-2013, 11:35 AM   #36
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Ray Lewis' house has more style, though what's the deal with those dining room chairs? And the ceiling would make me think that I'm living in a big beehive. However, a grand piano always looks good, and he's got some nice views.

http://www.realtor.com/blogs/2013/03...beach-mansion/
You're right, that dining room table and those chairs would be history, as would those creepy looking elephants.

His laundry room is almost as big as our kitchen, lol.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:37 AM   #37
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You're right, that dining room table and those chairs would be history, as would those creepy looking elephants.

His laundry room is almost as big as our kitchen, lol.

He needs a big laundry room for getting blood stains out.

And yeah, those elephants do cause consternation.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:56 PM   #38
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can he play FB? bring him in for a look
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:03 PM   #39
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:30 PM   #41
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I'm more interested in developing tomorrow's line than signing an aging vet. I'd be alright with it if they just didn't think they had anyone who could play the position this year, but I doubt that that's the case.
So, you've supported every win now move they made, but wouldn't support this one?

That about sum it up?
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:45 PM   #42
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I was wondering what happened to him last year. I hadn't heard that he retired and thought he was active, but then noticed at the end of the year that he never played. I thought maybe I'd missed a retirement announcement last year.

So just to recap for anyone who missed it -- Waters missed OTAs and mandatory minicamp, but BB stated those were excused. Then he was missing when training camp started, which was unusual. BB was, as usual, very evasive. Ultimately, he was put on the did not report / reserve list, and his number, 54, was given to rookie Dont'a Hightower.

It came out that apparently he was looking for either a raise or to be traded, or both. Rumor was that he'd be willing to play for the Texans, the team closest to where he lives, I guess. The Patriots let it slip (unusual for them), that they'd be willing to bump up his salary from the $2.5MM he was scheduled to make to $4.0MM, and thought that woudl do the trick, but he still never showed.

Rumor was he was hoping to be released so he could play, but fat chance of that.

Let me be clear -- he was REALLY GOOD in 2011. Played extremely well. Far beyond our hopes, honestly, for a guy that age who was thought to be on the decline. Patriots fans were very disappointed.

Pats have now released him. There's also this:

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Of course, he has 4 months to get into game shape. Who knows what he's going to do. Disappointing that he wouldn't come back and play for us, but what can you do?
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So, you've supported every win now move they made, but wouldn't support this one?

That about sum it up?
I'm not in the let's suck again and hope Andrew Luck II shows up in 2014, if that's what you mean.

I support the "start winning now and build a franchise that can sustain it" moves that I think Reid and Dorsey are working on. Forgive me if that's too much nuance for you to handle.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:09 PM   #44
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Pats have now released him. There's also this:



Of course, he has 4 months to get into game shape. Who knows what he's going to do. Disappointing that he wouldn't come back and play for us, but what can you do?
If you're Belichick, I guess you win games with 22 players off the street.
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I'm not in the let's suck again and hope Andrew Luck II shows up in 2014, if that's what you mean.

I support the "start winning now and build a franchise that can sustain it" moves that I think Reid and Dorsey are working on. Forgive me if that's too much nuance for you to handle.
Nuance, my ass.

You aren't winning now with Alex Smith, who takes more sacks than any QB, while developing a line in front of him.

You're either all in, or a ****ing dumbass.

Dumbass.
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