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Old 04-29-2013, 01:29 PM  
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Army Email Labels Christian Ministries as “Domestic Hate Groups”

Army Email Labels Christian Ministries as “Domestic Hate Groups”

By Todd Starnes

A U.S. Army officer sent an email to dozens of subordinates listing the American Family Association and Family Research Council as “domestic hate groups” because they oppose homosexuality — and warned officers to monitor soldiers who might be supporters of the groups.

“Just want to ensure everyone is somewhat educated on some of the groups out there that do not share our Army Values,” read an email from Lt. Col. Jack Rich to three dozen subordinates at Fort Campbell in Kentucky. “When we see behaviors that are inconsistent with Army Values – don’t just walk by – do the right thing and address the concern before it becomes a problem.”

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, told Fox News he was disturbed by the contents of the email.

“It’s very disturbing to see where the Obama Administration is taking the military and using it as a laboratory for social experimentation — and also as an instrument to fundamentally change the culture,” he said. “The message is very clear – if you are a Christian who believes in the Bible, who believes in transcendent truth, there is no place for you in the military.”

The Army denied there is any attack on Christians or those who hold religious beliefs.

“The notion that the Army is taking an anti-religion or anti-Christian stance is contrary to any of our policies, doctrines and regulations,” said George Wright, Army spokesman at the Pentagon. “Any belief that the Army is out to label religious groups in a negative manner is without warrant.”

Wright said they are checking into the origin of the email. At this point it’s unclear who ordered the email to be sent and why.

The 14-page email documented groups the military considers to be anti-gay, anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim. Among the other groups mentioned are Neo-Nazis, Racist Skinheads, White Nationalists and the Ku Klux Klan.

The Family Research Council and the American Family Association were listed as being anti-gay.

“The religious right in America has employed a variety of strategies in its efforts to beat back the increasingly confident gay rights movement,” the officer wrote. “One of those has been defamation.”

The officer accused the “Christian Right” of “engaging in the crudest type of name-calling, describing LGBT people as ‘perverts” with ‘filthy habits’ who seek to snatch the children of straight parents and ‘convert’ them to gay sex,” he wrote.

Last week, Fox News reported that an Army training instructor told a Reserve unit based in Pennsylvania that Evangelical Christianity and Catholicism were examples of religious extremism. The Army categorized that episode as an isolated incident......





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Old 04-29-2013, 05:26 PM   #16
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What exactly are you calling BS? Two of those three are quite obvious. What, are they actually based in Canada or something?
The Brady Gun group hates guns and hates people who own guns. Therefore they should officially be designated as a "hate group" and our Armed forces should be receiving emails about how they should be closely monitored.
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:36 PM   #18
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The Brady Gun group hates guns and hates people who own guns. Therefore they should officially be designated as a "hate group" and our Armed forces should be receiving emails about how they should be closely monitored.
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By these same standards Alcoholic Anonymous should be label a domestic hate group. They do not consider Alcoholism a healthy life style and promote compassion to support healing of this destructive behavior.

People on each side of this debate demands that you not only disagree with but disdain the other as crazy or evil. The rhetoric of our current culture is deeply divided, intense and even hysterical. Nobody is interested in logical ideas or reason only to denounce the other side.

FRC is not a group promoting hate it is a group that believes in family values, Christian morality and long standing traditions of marriage. Nobody from FRC is out committing crimes or hateful acts against homosexuals because of their lifestyle.
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By these same standards Alcoholic Anonymous should be label a domestic hate group. They do not consider Alcoholism a healthy life style and promote compassion to support healing of this destructive behavior.

People on each side of this debate demands that you not only disagree with but disdain the other as crazy or evil. The rhetoric of our current culture is deeply divided, intense and even hysterical. Nobody is interested in logical ideas or reason only to denounce the other side.

FRC is not a group promoting hate it is a group that believes in family values, Christian morality and long standing traditions of marriage. Nobody from FRC is out committing crimes or hateful acts against homosexuals because of their lifestyle.



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By these same standards Alcoholic Anonymous should be label a domestic hate group. They do not consider Alcoholism a healthy life style and promote compassion to support healing of this destructive behavior.

People on each side of this debate demands that you not only disagree with but disdain the other as crazy or evil. The rhetoric of our current culture is deeply divided, intense and even hysterical. Nobody is interested in logical ideas or reason only to denounce the other side.

FRC is not a group promoting hate it is a group that believes in family values, Christian morality and long standing traditions of marriage. Nobody from FRC is out committing crimes or hateful acts against homosexuals because of their lifestyle.
It is tough to have a logical discussion with people whose only rationale for disliking gay people is religious claptrap.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:50 PM   #25
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By these same standards Alcoholic Anonymous should be label a domestic hate group. They do not consider Alcoholism a healthy life style and promote compassion to support healing of this destructive behavior.

People on each side of this debate demands that you not only disagree with but disdain the other as crazy or evil. The rhetoric of our current culture is deeply divided, intense and even hysterical. Nobody is interested in logical ideas or reason only to denounce the other side.

FRC is not a group promoting hate it is a group that believes in family values, Christian morality and long standing traditions of marriage. Nobody from FRC is out committing crimes or hateful acts against homosexuals because of their lifestyle.
I have yet to see someone who was born an alcoholic. Yes, there are genetic influences, but environment plays a huge role as well.

You can't rehab a gay individual who was born gay. You can rehab an alcoholic.

Also, AA is helping alcoholics, and is often sought out by the individual because their quality of life is severely inhibited by their addiction. Gay individuals are who they are, and no amount of rehab will change that.

The two aren't even comparable.
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By these same standards Alcoholic Anonymous should be label a domestic hate group. They do not consider Alcoholism a healthy life style and promote compassion to support healing of this destructive behavior.

People on each side of this debate demands that you not only disagree with but disdain the other as crazy or evil. The rhetoric of our current culture is deeply divided, intense and even hysterical. Nobody is interested in logical ideas or reason only to denounce the other side.

FRC is not a group promoting hate it is a group that believes in family values, Christian morality and long standing traditions of marriage. Nobody from FRC is out committing crimes or hateful acts against homosexuals because of their lifestyle.
The fact that you equate being gay with being an alcoholic is precisely why these organizations are labeled as hate groups.

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Disapproving of a lifestyle choice is hate? That's a new one.
It isn't a choice. Even if it were, disapproving of someone else's sexual "choice" and speaking out against them makes you a meddlesome asshole.
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The fact that you equate being gay with being an alcoholic is precisely why these organizations are labeled as hate groups.



It isn't a choice. Even if it were, disapproving of someone else's sexual "choice" and speaking out against them makes you a meddlesome asshole.
Who gives a shit? seriously "Hate" is way overplayed these days, apathy is a lot closer to the truth.
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