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Old 04-26-2013, 10:28 AM  
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Florida baby dies from whooping cough. Parents chose not to vaccinate

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Orange County health officials said a baby died from whooping cough last Thursday.

This is the first whooping cough death the county has seen in decades. Officials said it's been at least 20 years or more since someone died of the disease.

Whooping cough, also called pertussis, and other diseases are making comebacks, because so many parents are deciding not to vaccinate their kids.

"It's really unfortunate. We're saddened to hear that an infant died of something like this," said Dain Weister with the Florida Department of Health in Orange County.

Officials said the family chose not to vaccinate their child. Some parents are choosing not to fully vaccinate their children because they worry there is a link between the vaccinations and autism.

"A lot of people may not know (that) even the person who did that study admitted that study was flawed," Weister said.

Health officials said that has caused vaccinations to drop and the number of cases of measles, pertussis and other preventable diseases to go up.

Last year, Orange County had one case of measles and 42 cases of pertussis. This year there have already been four cases of measles and 12 cases of pertussis.

WFTV spoke to parents at the Orange County Health Department who said they don't want to take any chances.

"I feel like it's important so they can stay healthy and get all the shots and care that they need," parent Shaneatria Jones said.

Health officials believe the baby that died caught whooping cough from an adult.

Now they're urging parents to have their kids immunized to prevent another whooping cough death.
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:01 AM   #31
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In 2012, 166 people were reported to have died shortly after receiving vaccines. 72 were under 5 years old. It is thought that the majority of such incidents are never reported.
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:01 AM   #32
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:01 AM   #33
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That's a good point. But what about vaccines for diseases which aren't readily transmittable?
I'm speaking to preventable communicable diseases such as MMR. I don't think it's OK to have a child out there spreading disease because you have an objection to vaccination as a concept.
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:02 AM   #34
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and those are?
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:03 AM   #35
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:03 AM   #36
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I'm speaking to preventable communicable diseases such as MMR. I don't think it's OK to have a child out there spreading disease because you have an objection to vaccination as a concept.
How about just the regular flu shot?
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:04 AM   #37
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In 2012, 166 people were reported to have died shortly after receiving vaccines. 72 were under 5 years old. It is thought that the majority of such incidents are never reported.
Reported by whom? Source?
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:05 AM   #38
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:06 AM   #39
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I'm speaking to preventable communicable diseases such as MMR. I don't think it's OK to have a child out there spreading disease because you have an objection to vaccination as a concept.
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:07 AM   #40
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Perhaps HPV?
Still a readily spreadable disease, unless you don't plan on people ever having sex.
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:07 AM   #41
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How about just the regular flu shot?
Influenza is not generally going to be fatal, so I think parents should have a little bit of leeway there.

Diseases that kill children, smallpox, whooping cough, measles, etc. Yes I believe they should be required by law.
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:08 AM   #43
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Guide to Interpreting VAERS Case Report Information
When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.

VAERS data contains coincidental events and those truly caused by vaccines.
More than 10 million vaccines per year are given to children less than 1 year old, usually between 2 and 6 months of age. At this age, infants are at greatest risk for certain medical adverse events, including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). Some infants will experience these medical events shortly after a vaccination by coincidence.
These coincidences make it difficult to know whether a particular adverse event resulted from a medical condition or from a vaccination. Therefore, vaccine providers are encouraged to report all adverse events following vaccination, whether or not they believe the vaccination was the cause.

Please read the following statement on the limits of VAERS data. You MUST click on the box below to access the VAERS database.
When reviewing data from VAERS, please keep in mind the following limitations:

VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected, but require a report to be filed to VAERS. VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.

"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events. The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report. Physicians and patients understand that minor side effects of vaccinations often include this kind of discomfort, as well as low fevers. On the other hand, more serious and unexpected medical events are probably more likely to be reported than minor ones, especially when they occur soon after vaccination, even if they may be coincidental and related to other causes.

A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.

DISCLAIMER: Please note that VAERS staff follow-up on all serious and other selected adverse event reports to obtain additional medical, laboratory, and/or autopsy records to help understand the concern raised. However, in general coding terms in VAERS do not change based on the information received during the follow-up process. VAERS data should be used with caution as numbers and conditions do not reflect data collected during follow-up. Note that the inclusion of events in VAERS data does not infer causality.

For more information, please call the VAERS Information Line toll-free at (800) 822-7967 or e-mail to info@vaers.org.
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Influenza is not generally going to be fatal, so I think parents should have a little bit of leeway there.

Diseases that kill children, smallpox, whooping cough, measles, etc. Yes I believe they should be required by law.
I'm pretty sure that influenza kills lots of people, including kids, every year.
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