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Old 04-24-2013, 09:43 AM  
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Professor told students to stomp on paper with Jesus's name on it

A Florida Atlantic University student said he was suspended from class after he refused a professor’s directive to stomp on a piece of paper with the word “Jesus” written on it.

“I’m not going to be sitting in a class having my religious rights desecrated,” student Ryan Rotela told television station WPEC. “I truly see this as I’m being punished.”

Rotela, who is a devout Mormon, said the instructor in his Intercultural Communications class told the students to write the name “Jesus” on a sheet of paper. Then, they were told to put the paper on the floor.

“He had us all stand up and he said ‘Stomp on it,’” Rotela said. “I picked up the paper from the floor and put it right back on the table.

The young college student told the instructor, Deandre Poole, that the assignment was insulting and offensive.

“I said to the professor, ‘With all due respect to your authority as a professor, I do not believe what you told us to do was appropriate,’” Rotela said. ‘I believe it was unprofessional and I was deeply offended by what you told me to do...’”


Link:http://townhall.com/columnists/todds...475/page/full/

I wonder what the media reaction will be, if the word is not "Jesus" but "Mohammed".
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:54 AM   #31
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I'd be overly dramatic, call a newspaper, threaten to kill the person, and start a thread on chiefsplanet about it.
They may not do this; however, the Mormon Sect is a very powerful force in America.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:55 AM   #32
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They may not do this; however, the Mormon Sect is a very powerful force in America.
So powerful, in fact, that they propelled their man all the way to victory in the last election...

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Old 04-24-2013, 11:05 AM   #33
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Can someone write all these rules down for me? They are hard to keep track of. Let me see...can't draw pictures of Mohammed because that would be worshiping an idol, have to treat any depiction of Christ (or even a piece of paper with his name on it) as if it were Christ himself but that's not worshiping an idol...man. It's so much easier being a Buddhist. I've been told that if I were to meet Buddha I am expected to kill him, and that makes perfect sense to me.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:07 AM   #34
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WWJD?

I kind of think Jesus might say that his name written on a piece of paper is not some kind of voodoo icon.

It might be more objectionable if he asked the students to desecrate prayer cards or a velvet Jesus painting or tore apart some rosary beads.

The Islamic people are overly senstive regarding desecrating depictions of Mohammed if you ask me. I don't think American Christians should show the same tendency over something that is not even a depiction.

So, was this student "suspended from class" like the lead post says?
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:08 AM   #35
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I kind of think Jesus might say that his name written on a piece of paper is not some kind of voodoo icon.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:22 AM   #36
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So, was this student "suspended from class" like the lead post says?
The student is back to the class which is now taught by another professor. Prof Poole is on leave with pay.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:23 AM   #37
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The student is back to the class which is now taught by another professor. Prof Poole is on leave with pay.
For his safety because religious fundamentalists are dangerous.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:30 AM   #38
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Huh. Not a cool assignment. That being said, I've done a similar assignment as a team building/advisory activity.

What you do:

Give people 8 pieces of paper. Have them write the word they identify with from the following categories. One category/word for each slip of paper:
1) Ethnicity
2) Gender
3) Religion
4) Hobby
5) Name
6) Favorite possession
7) Can't remember
8) Can't remember

Then you all stand in a circle and say, "We're on a life raft that is sinking. Unfortunately, we all have a lot of baggage that is weighing us down. We're going to all have to throw one of our cards off the life raft." So people have to pick something that they identify with, tear the card, and throw it off the raft. You then have them talk about what they chose to throw out. This goes all the way down until you get to one card, and you all talk about why you chose that one card.

Kids get really thoughtful about what they're discarding and having to choose between, and it opens up some awesome conversation about values and seeing what various people/cultures value over others.

It's a pretty powerful activity, but I can see how someone might be offended by it as well if I asked them to tear up the card that says ,"Christian" on it... or whatever religion they might be.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:37 AM   #39
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Huh. Not a cool assignment. That being said, I've done a similar assignment as a team building/advisory activity.

What you do:

Give people 8 pieces of paper. Have them write the word they identify with from the following categories. One category/word for each slip of paper:
1) Ethnicity
2) Gender
3) Religion
4) Hobby
5) Name
6) Favorite possession
7) Can't remember
8) Can't remember

Then you all stand in a circle and say, "We're on a life raft that is sinking. Unfortunately, we all have a lot of baggage that is weighing us down. We're going to all have to throw one of our cards off the life raft." So people have to pick something that they identify with, tear the card, and throw it off the raft. You then have them talk about what they chose to throw out. This goes all the way down until you get to one card, and you all talk about why you chose that one card.

Kids get really thoughtful about what they're discarding and having to choose between, and it opens up some awesome conversation about values and seeing what various people/cultures value over others.

It's a pretty powerful activity, but I can see how someone might be offended by it as well if I asked them to tear up the card that says ,"Christian" on it... or whatever religion they might be.
The only one on that list I identify with is gender. I would imagine that nationality would be a good one to put on a card, and hobby could be a pretty good one depending on how it is defined.
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The student is back to the class which is now taught by another professor. Prof Poole is on leave with pay.
Good, this might just be the last minor outrage of 2013.
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Huh. Not a cool assignment. That being said, I've done a similar assignment as a team building/advisory activity.

What you do:

Give people 8 pieces of paper. Have them write the word they identify with from the following categories. One category/word for each slip of paper:
1) Ethnicity
2) Gender
3) Religion
4) Hobby
5) Name
6) Favorite possession
7) Can't remember
8) Can't remember

Then you all stand in a circle and say, "We're on a life raft that is sinking. Unfortunately, we all have a lot of baggage that is weighing us down. We're going to all have to throw one of our cards off the life raft." So people have to pick something that they identify with, tear the card, and throw it off the raft. You then have them talk about what they chose to throw out. This goes all the way down until you get to one card, and you all talk about why you chose that one card.

Kids get really thoughtful about what they're discarding and having to choose between, and it opens up some awesome conversation about values and seeing what various people/cultures value over others.

It's a pretty powerful activity, but I can see how someone might be offended by it as well if I asked them to tear up the card that says ,"Christian" on it... or whatever religion they might be.
You should probably be fired, as you might have made someone uncomfortable or caused them to think.
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You should probably be fired, as you might have made someone uncomfortable or caused them to think.
Exactly, the people in this thread bashing the teacher are ridiculous.
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:16 PM   #43
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Exactly, the people in this thread bashing the teacher are ridiculous.
The teacher should not have made it a required exercise. If the student refuses, move on to the next one and let it be. It was only when the teacher forces the issue that things started getting crazy.

Like was said earlier in this thread...if it was Mohammad or Martin Luther King Jr. on that paper, what would the reaction have been? The teacher probably would have been fired outright, instead of being put on leave with pay.
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:21 PM   #44
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The teacher should not have made it a required exercise. If the student refuses, move on to the next one and let it be. It was only when the teacher forces the issue that things started getting crazy.

Like was said earlier in this thread...if it was Mohammad or Martin Luther King Jr. on that paper, what would the reaction have been? The teacher probably would have been fired outright, instead of being put on leave with pay.
After the student made it known he was offended, does it say anywhere the teacher's response? Did he really force him to continue and stomp on it? Or is this student just being overly sensitive and whiny?
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After the student made it known he was offended, does it say anywhere the teacher's response? Did he really force him to continue and stomp on it? Or is this student just being overly sensitive and whiny?
Don't know. But religion is not supposed to be in education to begin with....if we are going to outlaw prayer in schools, then stomping on Jesus should be a no no as well. (I know that this is a college, so the separation of church and state is a great deal more blurred, but you get the gist of what I am saying.)
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