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Old 04-23-2013, 01:42 PM  
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8th grade student suspended, arrested over gun t-shirt



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When 8th grade Jared Marcum got dressed for school on Thursday he says he had no idea that his pro-Second Amendment shirt would initiate what he calls a fight over his First Amendment rights.

"I never thought it would go this far because honestly I don't see a problem with this, there shouldn't be a problem with this," Jared said.

It was the image of a gun printed on Jared's t-shirt that sparked a dispute between a Logan Middle School teacher and Jared, that ended with Jared suspended, arrested and facing two charges, obstruction and disturbing the education process, on his otherwise spotless record.

Jared's father Allen Lardieri says he's angry he had to rush from work to pick his son up from jail over something he says was blown way out of proportion.

"I don't' see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a t-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri said.

(READ MORE: Questions remain unanswered for 8th grade student arrested over shirt)

The Logan County School District's dress code policy prohibits clothing that displays profanity, violence, discriminatory messages and more but nowhere in the document does it say anything about gun images.

"He did not violate any school policy," Lardieri reiterates. "He did not become aggressive."

Now, Lardieri says he's ready to fight until the situation is made right.

"I will go to the ends of the earth, I will call people, I will write letters, I will do everything in the legal realm to make sure this does not happen again," Lardieri said.

Logan City Police did confirm that Jared had been arrested and charged today.

13 news tried contacting the Logan County School District but has not heard anything back.
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:35 PM   #46
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what creative liberties did you take to determine that the rules listed were broken by the kid?
"Appropriate clothing should be worn at all times."

If this shirt caused a disturbance to students and teachers, it's reasonable to call it inappropriate.
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:35 PM   #47
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I hope he learns how to tolerate being told what to wear and how to follow rules he might not like.
Since heís going to a place that the rules are very clearly stated and not up to the whim of a teacher with an agenda I doubt itíll be much of a problem.
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:36 PM   #48
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The gun in this particular context does not convey a sense of "violence", and anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that.
And this.

Was going to say just about that. Guns are not violent, people who use them inappropriately are violent.

Just like the pic KChiefer posted. That man wasn't doing anything violent with the guns, but the way he was holding them is perceived to be.

Now, if that were a white cowboy holding them like that, could say the same thing be said?
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:36 PM   #49
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I could see that being the case here. You make an astute point.
The kid knew that the school was likely to make a stink about the shirt. He was simply prepared to make a bigger stink. What he did not anticipate is that the school was willing to make an EVEN BIGGER stink. This will probably end with the kid making the biggest stink and suing the school.

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Old 04-23-2013, 02:37 PM   #50
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The picture of the gun is the kicker. A shirt that would have just said "Go NRA: Protect the 2nd Amend!" would probably have been accepted.
I think that's being overcautious to the point of absurdity. Students are smart enough to separate the image of a gun from the potential violent effects of a gun. Let's don't remove all common sense from the discussion...
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:38 PM   #51
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The problem appears to be that it caused a disturbance. I can see that happening. Can you?
Not if his teachers act in a professional manner. The shirt actually could have lead to a class discussion about being getting involved, contacting your Congressman, and standing up for your Constitutional rights. The teacher could have stated that while he did not support the message of the shirt, that he supported the right of the student to have that opinion. That would have been a much better outcome than what happened, no?
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:38 PM   #52
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And this.

Was going to say just about that. Guns are not violent, people who use them inappropriately are violent.

Just like the pic KChiefer posted. That man wasn't doing anything violent with the guns, but the way he was holding them is perceived to be.

Now, if that were a white cowboy holding them like that, could say the same thing be said?
The man in that picture is famous for songs advocating gun violence.
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:39 PM   #53
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Since heís going to a place that the rules are very clearly stated and not up to the whim of a teacher with an agenda I doubt itíll be much of a problem.
I doubt he goes into the military, anyway. All I needed was to see a picture of him to say that. Reading the story confirms it.
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:39 PM   #54
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The kid knew that the school was likely to make a stink about the shirt. He was simply prepared to make a bigger stink. What he did not anticipate is that the school was willing to make an EVEN BIGGER stink. This will probably end with the kid making the biggest stink and suing the school.

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I agree. The kid said so himself.
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:40 PM   #55
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Not if his teachers act in a professional manner. The shirt actually could have lead to a class discussion about being getting involved, contacting your Congressman, and standing up for your Constitutional rights. The teacher could have stated that while he did not support the message of the shirt, that he supported the right of the student to have that opinion. That would have been a much better outcome than what happened, no?
Or they could have, you know, taught math.
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The man in that picture is famous for songs advocating gun violence.
But he isn't doing anything violent with them Is he
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Feel free to find the part where it says "First and Second Amendment rights are not to be defended by any student!"
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Since there is a direct relationship between dress and behavior, it is believed that students and staff should dress appropriately for the school setting. Appropriate, will be defined here as right and correct for the school setting and functions, conducive to learning, and shall not distract from or be disruptive to the learning process.

Logan County School students should always be neat and clean in their dress and appearance. It is expected that each student will maintain a proper mode of dress, both during the school day and at all school activities. If in the judgment of the administration, a student is dressed inappropriately, the student will be required to change clothes or cover up inappropriate clothing before returning to classes. Time out of class will be regarded as unexcused. Additional measures may be taken if deemed necessary by the administration. The administration has the final authority on all matters relating to the dress code.
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The gun in this particular context does not convey a sense of "violence", and anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that.
Guns are inherently violent, so I don't think you're correct about that.
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There's a time and place for everything. A student's rant about gay marriage during math class would be an inappropriate place to exercise her First Amendment.
And this kid was singled out in the lunch line after being in school for half the day without incident. Until douchebag liberal agenda pushing lunchroom monitor decides a shirt is inappropriate.
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Not if his teachers act in a professional manner. The shirt actually could have lead to a class discussion about being getting involved, contacting your Congressman, and standing up for your Constitutional rights. The teacher could have stated that while he did not support the message of the shirt, that he supported the right of the student to have that opinion. That would have been a much better outcome than what happened, no?
what??? Do something educational and benefit to all? Imagine a teacher seizing them moment.....nope, let's have the kid arrested
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