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Old 04-23-2013, 08:07 AM  
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Will Dzhokhar get the death penalty?

Massachussetts: outlawed the death penalty in 1982.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital..._Massachusetts

Gov Deval Patrick: Publicly opposes the death penalty. http://www.ontheissues.org/Deval_Patrick.htm

Most Americans prefer life imprisonment to death if given the choice:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90348&page=1


Therefore there can be no doubt that the bomber will be kept in prison rather than executed. No way a liberal state will be able to oppose the death penalty (esp when they made it state law)..... and then turn around to execute the bomber. Must be consistent.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:09 AM   #2
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He could be executed by the federal govt.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:10 AM   #3
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:11 AM   #4
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Massachussetts: outlawed the death penalty in 1982.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital..._Massachusetts

Gov Deval Patrick: Publicly opposes the death penalty. http://www.ontheissues.org/Deval_Patrick.htm

Most Americans prefer life imprisonment to death if given the choice:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90348&page=1


Therefore there can be no doubt that the bomber will be kept in prison rather than executed. No way a liberal state will be able to oppose the death penalty (esp when they made it state law)..... and then turn around to execute the bomber. Must be consistent.
If there was no death penalty when the crime was committed, they can't create one and go back and apply it to a crime that has already occurred.
If the Fed charges qualify for the death penalty, then the Feds could execute him.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:22 AM   #5
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If there was no death penalty when the crime was committed, they can't create one and go back and apply it to a crime that has already occurred.
If the Fed charges qualify for the death penalty, then the Feds could execute him.
Right, I know the Feds can go after it. (I made this point in another thread over the weekend). I'm talking more about the local environment there. Won't the citizens of the Bay State go crazy? Won't they protest? After all they are good liberals who don't like the death penalty - Surely you see the point here.


My hunch is that they want this guy killed despite their "stong moral convictions" that it's wrong.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:33 AM   #6
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Right, I know the Feds can go after it. (I made this point in another thread over the weekend). I'm talking more about the local environment there. Won't the citizens of the Bay State go crazy? Won't they protest? After all they are good liberals who don't like the death penalty - Surely you see the point here.


My hunch is that they want this guy killed despite their "stong moral convictions" that it's wrong.
Can't speak for everyone, but I think for a lot of people who are "against" the death penalty, they are against it not so much for strictly moral reasons (that it is always wrong to kill), but for more general complicated reasons. Such as--it is applied unfairly (disproportionately to minorities and to the poor who can't afford better lawyers and a better defense), and that there is always the possibility an innocent person will be executed.

However, when it comes down to an individual, a horrible act, and clear evidence like a video and admission, a lot of people who are generally against the death penalty aren't really bothered by it for specific situations.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:35 AM   #7
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Massachussetts: outlawed the death penalty in 1982.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital..._Massachusetts

Gov Deval Patrick: Publicly opposes the death penalty. http://www.ontheissues.org/Deval_Patrick.htm

Most Americans prefer life imprisonment to death if given the choice:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90348&page=1


Therefore there can be no doubt that the bomber will be kept in prison rather than executed. No way a liberal state will be able to oppose the death penalty (esp when they made it state law)..... and then turn around to execute the bomber. Must be consistent.
Massachusetts law is completely irrelevant, he'll be tried in federal court.

I think he will not get the death penalty just because there will probably be enough "my brother made me do it" mitigating circumstances.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:40 AM   #8
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I don't think Mass.'s feelings on the death penalty will even enter into it.


If he doesn't get the death penalty he's probably going to the ADX. Either way he's going to be suffering.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:43 AM   #9
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Either way, after they've exhausted questioning/interrogating him, I don't fell he'll be around for long.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:44 AM   #10
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Either way, after they've exhausted questioning/interrogating him, I don't fell he'll be around for long.
What like let him die? They want him to stand trial.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:51 AM   #11
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I don't really have a full understanding of what the criteria are for the death penalty compared to multiple life sentences, but I could see him getting a lesser sentence due to the (probable) fact that his brother was really the one driving the whole thing, and he just went along for the ride.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:52 AM   #12
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Oh, right. I'd forgotten about that. They've already got enough for a "life" conviction I would have thought.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:52 AM   #13
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I don't really have a full understanding of what the criteria are for the death penalty compared to multiple life sentences, but I could see him getting a lesser sentence due to the (probable) fact that his brother was really the one driving the whole thing, and he just went along for the ride.
Ya' know I don't get that—going along for the ride. If he participated he did it too. He has free will and a conscience but agreed to mass killing.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:53 AM   #14
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Either way, after they've exhausted questioning/interrogating him, I don't fell he'll be around for long.
Since they read him his Miranda Rights, don't think there will be much information coming from him unless they trade him something for him to talk
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Right, I know the Feds can go after it. (I made this point in another thread over the weekend). I'm talking more about the local environment there. Won't the citizens of the Bay State go crazy? Won't they protest? After all they are good liberals who don't like the death penalty - Surely you see the point here.


My hunch is that they want this guy killed despite their "stong moral convictions" that it's wrong.
Death penalty is on the table as the federal charges he's been hit with include that as a sentence.

And he will get it. And rightly so.
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