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Old 04-23-2013, 06:08 AM  
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Bloomberg Says Interpretation of Constitution Will ‘Have to Change’ After Boston Bomb

Like I said, more police state is coming. The scared sheeple will obey too.

In the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Monday the country’s interpretation of the Constitution will “have to change” to allow for greater security to stave off future attacks....

The mayor pointed to the gun debate and noted the courts have allowed for increasingly stringent regulations in response to ever-more powerful weapons.
Another reason why Progressives are closet totalitarians.


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Old 04-23-2013, 05:34 PM   #61
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:36 PM   #62
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Okay, so here was my position (to which you said I was a liar, stupid, etc.):



You've agreed that U.S. v. Miller fits that description. Are we ready for another case?
I know your position and it is wrong. And yes you are piss ignorant for believing otherwise. The Miller decision is flawed for starting with that view, yes, but even it concludes with the individual right to bear arms protected.
So, trying to use Miller to prop up your position doesn't work.
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:39 PM   #63
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I know your position and it is wrong. And yes you are piss ignorant for believing otherwise. The Miller decision is flawed for starting with that view, yes, but even it concludes with the individual right to bear arms protected.
So, trying to use Miller to prop up your position doesn't work.
First of all, do you remember the result (or conclusion, if you want) of the Miller decision?
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:47 PM   #64
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First of all, do you remember the result (or conclusion, if you want) of the Miller decision?
Of course I do and you need to watch your ****ing condescending tone. It's sad that ignorant assholes like you cling desperately to a decision like Miller and try to contort it to fit your convoluted views. You do know that Miller went unrepresented in this case right? Only one side of this debate was argued before the court.
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:02 PM   #65
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Of course I do and you need to watch your ****ing condescending tone. It's sad that ignorant assholes like you cling desperately to a decision like Miller and try to contort it to fit your convoluted views. You do know that Miller went unrepresented in this case right? Only one side of this debate was argued before the court.
Could you tell me what you think the result/conclusion of the Miller case was?

Also, when I'm trying to show what the traditional interpretation of the Second Amendment meant to the Court, why would I not "cling" to Miller and other cases that demonstrate the traditional interpretation of the Second Amendment as meant to the Court?
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:47 PM   #66
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What do guns have to do with making a bomb out of household supplies?
Not a damn thing once you can see through all those liberal arms reaching out to prove otherwise
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:51 PM   #67
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:06 PM   #68
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I hope Bloomberg runs for President.

It would virtually guarantee that the Democrats would lose, and if the Pubs keep putting hot garbage out there we might actually get a Libertarian in office.
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:06 PM   #69
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Anyone who says the SA was not intended for the people, or only intended for hunting or whatever, has clearly never researched the subject in full and are completely ignorant of the truth. Or they have and are just lying douche bags with an agenda to push. From Founders' own words, to the way our government was framed, to looking at the context of what these people had just gone through, it is incredible that anyone could say with a straight face that the SA was only intended for militias.

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Old 04-23-2013, 09:12 PM   #70
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Anyone who says the SA was not intended for the people, or only intended for hunting or whatever, has clearly never researched the subject in full and are completely ignorant of the truth. Or they have and are just lying douche bags with an agenda to push. From Founders' own words, to the way our government was framed, to looking at the context of what these people had just gone through, it is incredible that anyone could say with a straight face that the SA was only intended for militias.

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Okay, let's do a thought experiment. Suppose in 1804 the State of New Jersey passes a law that says no citizen of the state may own a double barrel musket. It goes to the Supreme Court. Say 5 Founders are on the bench. Will the law be overturned or upheld?
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:17 PM   #71
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Okay, let's do a thought experiment. Suppose in 1804 the State of New Jersey passes a law that says no citizen of the state may own a double barrel musket. It goes to the Supreme Court. Say 5 Founders are on the bench. Will the law be overturned or upheld?
Overturned.
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:26 PM   #72
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Overturned.
Believe it or not, the Founders would say that it's not an issue for the US supreme court to deal with, because it wasn't a federal issue. States could, if they wanted to, even prohibit your speech and not violate the First Amendment. The Bill of Rights from the Founder's perspective was about restricting federal action, not state action. It's not until the 20th century when that changed.

So it would have been upheld at the SCOTUS, if it had gone there (which it wouldn't have for several reasons, but like I said, thought experiment)

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Old 04-23-2013, 09:33 PM   #73
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Believe it or not, the Founders would say that it's not an issue for the US supreme court to deal with, because it wasn't a federal issue. States could, if they wanted to, even prohibit your speech and not violate the First Amendment. The Bill of Rights from the Founder's perspective was about restricting federal action, not state action. It's not until the 20th century when that changed.

So it would have been upheld at the SCOTUS, if it had gone there (which it wouldn't have for several reasons, but like I said, thought experiment)
Did you even bother to click on the link I provided? Or do you just "know better" than everyone else?
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Did you even bother to click on the link I provided? Or do you just "know better" than everyone else?
I browsed through your link. It doesn't refute what I've said, though, about the original view of the Bill of Rights and federalism limits. I know constitutional history isn't really taught much aside from maybe Marbury and Brown v Board, so it comes as a surprise no doubt.
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I browsed through your link. It doesn't refute what I've said, though, about the original view of the Bill of Rights and federalism limits. I know constitutional history isn't really taught much aside from maybe Marbury and Brown v Board, so it comes as a surprise no doubt.
Browsed it? Yeah, I see you are really concerned with gathering all the information you can to make an informed decision.

Everything from our founding to the framing refutes your view of the Second Amendment. But you are not really interested in facts are you?
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