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Old 04-22-2013, 09:46 PM  
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New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie(D) Unveils Sweeping Gun Control Plans

http://nj1015.com/chris-christie-unv...control-plans/


Gov. Chris Christie unveiled gun control and violence prevention measures that are as comprehensive as they are ambitious.


Governor Chris Christie announces a plan to strengthen existing gun laws and background checks, bolster criminal penalties and treat the root causes of mass violence. (Governor’s Office/Tim Larsen)
Christie acknowledges there is no way to prevent all violence in our society, but he says it is the job of government to question, to scrutinize and to demand more in an attempt to address the problem.

The plan calls for expanding New Jersey’s already strict gun control laws, expanding government-funded mental health treatment, making it more difficult for kids buy or rent violent video games, requiring that would-be gun owners show government-issued IDs and bolstering penalties for gun-related crimes.

“It’s hard for me to sit here today and say, ‘If all these things got imposed we’d see an ‘X’ percentage drop in gun violence in this state.’ I don’t know,” said Christie. “Bad people are going to do bad things and so, would greater penalties deter people? You hope they do.”

Expanding New Jersey’s Already Stringent Gun Control Measures:

New Jersey has the second toughest gun laws in the country. The first facet of Christie’s plan seeks to make them even stricter.

This includes banning future purchases of the Barrett .50 Caliber. Christie’s plan would also strengthen the state’s background check requirement by requiring mental health records to be included during the process at the time of a firearm purchase. The plan requires gun buyers to present a valid government photo ID, along with the already-mandatory Firearms Purchaser Identification Card.

Mental Health And Violence:

At the announcement of Christie’s NJ SAFE Taskforce in January in the aftermath of Newtown, he talked about targeting and treating the root causes of violence. Too many times there are instances of unspeakable tragedy and the question is asked how such tragedy could have been prevented. His proposals is this area include;

Making it easier for health professionals and courts to require potentially dangerous people to receive the treatment they need whether it is in the form of inpatient or outpatient care. This will allow the monitoring of their progress and ensure they are receiving the kind of specific care they need.
Creating flexibility in the type of care an individual is receiving, making it easier for someone to move from inpatient to outpatient settings.
Changing the current standard of involuntary outpatient treatment to eliminate the uncertainty expressed by clinicians and courts regarding their authority to order this type of essential assistance.
Limiting Kids’ Access To Violent Video Games:

According to the Governor, too often lost in the debate about controlling gun violence in our society is the almost constant exposure young children and adults have to graphic violence. Part-three of his plan includes;

Requiring that retailers post at the point of sale the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ERSB) ratings. Additionally, requiring retailers to develop, maintain and conspicuously display their policy on selling video games with an M or AO rating.
Requiring Consent of a Legal Guardian. This is not different than the kind of parental supervision expected when a child under the age of 18 goes to see an R rated movie, Christie is requiring that a legal guardian provide consent when a minor purchases or rents a video game that has a rating of “Mature” or “Adult Only.”
Increasing Penalties For Gun-Related Crimes:

In a series of bills Christie seeks to impose or strengthen criminal penalties when it comes to selling firearms to convicted criminals, possessing a firearm with the intent to unlawfully transfer, hiring a “straw purchaser,” unlawfully possessing ammunition and engaging in firearms trafficking, among other areas.

In addition, Governor Christie is seeking to reform bail laws for gun-related crimes by restricting the release on bail for aggravated firearms offenses and increasing bail requirements for aggravated firearms crimes.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:37 PM   #31
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Not really wild about any politician's social experiment with taxpayer money that involves taking away what's currently legal. Especially when the proposer readily admits he has no clue if it will work or not.
The majority of what Christie is proposing is right out of talking points from the NRA.

I don't understand the vantage point that because something hasn't been tried, we shouldn't experiment, especially on the state level. This gets a lot of things right. Again, I don't at all like the part where we take guns away from good gun owners.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:41 PM   #32
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He has some good ideas, and maybe he is throwing in the .50 cal part to please the dumbass anti-gun nuts that don't know anything about guns.


The "Gun Purchaser ID" part makes me want to kick puppies, though.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:44 PM   #33
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I see what you did there.
He learned it from Faux News.
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:25 PM   #34
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:38 AM   #35
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He has some good ideas, and maybe he is throwing in the .50 cal part to please the dumbass anti-gun nuts that don't know anything about guns.


The "Gun Purchaser ID" part makes me want to kick puppies, though.
It sounds like that's already part of the law. The only additional requirement is to present a government ID, which is a drivers license.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:45 AM   #36
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I don't think most of the people read the article.

The only burden to gun owners is that one gun is banned and they have to show their ID (e.g. Drivers license).

If you're not mentally ill, a kid whose parent doesn't let them but a certain game, or a person who irresponsibly breaks gun laws or enables illegal firearm sales, then you have nothing to worry about.

So what exactly is it that's bothering people about this? Again, Christie is largely following the NRAs lead here.
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Old 04-25-2013, 06:59 AM   #37
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Everyone is interested in the mental health aspect but I am curious with current hippaa laws how a data base of any real value could be built. If one could figure that out wouldn’t one also want to take a look at people that are supposedly healthy from a mental standpoint but are on prescription drugs which could affect their ability to think rationally.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:11 AM   #38
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I don't think most of the people read the article.

The only burden to gun owners is that one gun is banned and they have to show their ID (e.g. Drivers license).

If you're not mentally ill, a kid whose parent doesn't let them but a certain game, or a person who irresponsibly breaks gun laws or enables illegal firearm sales, then you have nothing to worry about.

So what exactly is it that's bothering people about this? Again, Christie is largely following the NRAs lead here.

You already have to do that.

The "Gun Purchaser ID" makes me want to facepalm so hard that I cave in my forehead.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:25 AM   #39
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You already have to do that.

The "Gun Purchaser ID" makes me want to facepalm so hard that I cave in my forehead.
I agree, but again, that is already new jersey law. It isn't part of this new proposal.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:52 AM   #40
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Gotta love the way this clown is going after Barrett rifles.

Because I'm sure $5,000 sniper rifles are the preferred weapon of Jersey lowlifes when robbing liquor stores.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:20 AM   #41
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I still blame Christie for tipping the election to obama, sucking up to him just days before the election because of hurricane Sandy

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Old 04-25-2013, 11:40 AM   #42
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I still blame Christie for tipping the election to obama, sucking up to him just days before the election because of hurricane Sandy


Not a shocker I guess but I'm done with him for that as well.
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