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Old 04-22-2013, 08:38 AM  
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Mass. Police: Bomb Suspects Didn't Have Gun Permit

Mass. Police: Bomb Suspects Didn't Have Gun Permit

A Massachusetts police official say the brothers suspected of bombing the Boston Marathon before having shootouts with authorities didn't have gun permits.

Cambridge Police Commissioner Robert Haas tells The Associated Press in an interview Sunday that neither Tamerlan Tsarnaev (tsahr-NEYE'-ehv) nor his brother Dzhokhar had permission to carry firearms.

He says it's unclear whether either ever applied and the applications aren't considered public records.

But he says the 19-year-old Dzhokhar (joh-KHAR') would have been denied a permit because of his age. Only people 21 or older are allowed gun licenses in Massachusetts.

The suspects were also accused of hijacking a Mercedes on Thursday night.

Haas says the pair didn't release the driver, but he escaped when he was left alone while the two men entered a convenience store.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/m...0#.UXVLIbXFWSo
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:41 PM   #91
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We effectively regulate automobiles in this country, so, I'm with you on that.
Automobiles are not mentioned in the 2nd Amendment
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:42 PM   #92
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Automobiles are not mentioned in the 2nd Amendment
And considered a privilege and not a right.
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:44 PM   #93
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And considered a privilege and not a right.
That is correct
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:52 PM   #94
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One could argue that the Internet wasn't something the framers envisioned. That the spoken word traveled more slowly and deliberately in their time. The advent of rapid, global communication has yielded dangerous results. The words that were carried to Tamerlan were carried to him over a medium that was never a possibility when the framers developed the first amendment. Therefor speech, particularly over the Internet, and its content should be regulated and closely monitored with punishments put in place for speech deemed subversive, dangerous, and deemed a threat to engender extremism that could result in a threat to American lives.

One could argue that. And one would be a ****ing idiot yet that is essentially the logical box gun grabbers have jumped into.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:09 PM   #95
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Automobiles are not mentioned in the 2nd Amendment
"well regulated militias" are.

I didn't bring the automobile false equivalency into the debate.
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We have a number of existing gun laws and regulations in place. Start with enforcing what is already on the books.
Once again, speak to the NRA lobbyists, they're not interested in seeing them enforced.
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How does forcing me to drive sober put me at a disadvantage in terms of being able to defend myself?
Never heard of defensive driving?

And by the way, I don't really understand this tangent at all.
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19 year olds are not allowed to own a pistol in any state I know of
True, and certainly not in Massachusetts. I concede that, so I imagine that it was Tamerlan who did all the acquisition.
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In 2010:

19,392 gun deaths were attributed to suicide
8,275 gun deaths were attributed to criminal gun homicides
606 gun deaths were attributed to unintentional/accidental consequences
230 gun deaths were ruled "justifiable homicides"

Clearly, the need for all of you to "protect" yourselves is overwhelming.
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Once again, speak to the NRA lobbyists, they're not interested in seeing them enforced.
Really? You expect me to believe the NRA has Holder and the Justice dept. FBI state and local cops, attorneys general, all cowering from enforcing the laws that are on the books? Really? If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:23 PM   #101
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In 2010:

19,392 gun deaths were attributed to suicide
8,275 gun deaths were attributed to criminal gun homicides
606 gun deaths were attributed to unintentional/accidental consequences
230 gun deaths were ruled "justifiable homicides"

Clearly, the need for all of you to "protect" yourselves is overwhelming.
In a nation of over 350 million.

Suicides? Really? You're asserting that an individual in the darkest deepest depressive state would conclude they want to off themselves and say, "Well **** this if I don't have a gun"

Yeah, those folks don't have anything going on that would lend itself to their death. The gun was the problem.
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Once again, speak to the NRA lobbyists, they're not interested in seeing them enforced.
Don't blame the NRA.

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National Rifle Association chief Wayne LaPierre first pointed to the report on Meet the Press Sunday, when he demanded to know why the national press corps wasn't asking the White House or U.S. attorneys general to explain lax federal enforcement of gun laws.
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The districts that contain Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City ranked last in terms of federal gun law enforcement in 2012, according to a new report from Syracuse University's Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, which tracks federal data.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/was...ral-gun-crimes

Montana, Wyoming, Alaska have the most guns per capita and aren't afraid to prosecute. And they're pro-gun states. Blame the state, not the NRA.
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Once again, speak to the NRA lobbyists, they're not interested in seeing them enforced.
What motive would they have for that?
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