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Old 04-21-2013, 08:49 PM  
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ACLU to Kansas school district: Cancel creationist assemblies about Dinosaurs

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The American Civil Liberties Union has warned a southwest Kansas school district against holding mandatory student assemblies that feature a creationist group.

“Teaching or otherwise promoting creationism is, simply put, unlawful,” the ACLU wrote in a letter to Hugoton Public Schools superintendent Mark Crawford on Friday. “As the District is surely aware, the federal courts have been unequivocally clear that efforts to inject religious beliefs regarding the origin of life into public school science curricula are constitutionally impermissible, no matter what form they take.”

Hugoton Public Schools invited Creation Truth Foundation’s founder Dr. G. Thomas Sharp to teach the “Truth about Dinosaurs” at two assemblies next week. At least one of the assemblies will be mandatory for all students and teachers.

The group has created teaching materials “explaining the origins, extinction and possible existence of dinosaurs” from a Biblical view and believes the dinosaur Tyrannosaurus rex walked the Earth as early as 100,000 years ago rather more than 65 million years ago. In a lecture uploaded to YouTube last year, Sharp criticized scientists for ignoring the great flood of the Bible.

“We respectfully request the District take immediate and concrete steps to remedy these problems,” the ACLU concluded. “The first step would be to cancel the planned mandatory school assemblies now set for next week.”

However, superintendent Crawford has said he will not call off the assemblies. He told The Kansas City Star the assemblies will not promote creationism, despite the beliefs and mission of the Creation Truth Foundation.

“I agree with the ACLU, in that, if a mandatory all-school assembly where creationist truths or creationist beliefs were expressed, that would be inappropriate public-school content, and that is not the case,” Crawford said. “It’s completely and totally school appropriate.”
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:18 AM   #46
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:26 AM   #47
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I believe the KJV was spiritually guided, it's really up to the individuals' belief. I believe the original was written in Greek.
Radical Muslims believe the Quran was spiritually guided too.

Nice company you keep.

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Old 04-22-2013, 08:40 AM   #48
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Radical Muslims believe the Quran was spiritually guided too.

Nice company you keep.

Oh wait, that's different, because YOUR religion is the RIGHT religion. I forgot.
Why would he choose a religion that he doesn't think is right?
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:46 AM   #49
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Why would he choose a religion that he doesn't think is right?
It's all the same to the untrained atheist.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:01 AM   #50
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Nothing wrong with teaching different viewpoints, however neither side should be mandatory unless it's a private school.
So when should they hold the "The Earth is Flat!" assembly?
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:52 AM   #51
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Nothing wrong with teaching different viewpoints, however neither side should be mandatory unless it's a private school.
Science is not a viewpoint, science is a process.

Creationism is a belief system, one that often rejects scientific investigation into the validity of claims.

Science, like math and language arts are not viewpoints, they are tools for understanding and creating rational and critical thinking.

Belief systems can be paths towards fields of knowledge not accessed by empirical study, but, creationism is not even that. Creationism is an attempt to validate a particular belief that is expressly unscientific, in other words, pseudo science.

I cannot believe you just suggested science should not be mandatory in school.

"Yes, I know I express ignorant views via an informational and communicative medium that would have been impossible without science, but I think it ought to be optional in school."

Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:20 AM   #52
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Who cares what some religions believe or want to teach. It doesn't harm any of you.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:24 AM   #53
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Who cares what some religions believe or want to teach. It doesn't harm any of you.
Read the article, stupid. People care because they're wanting to teach it in a public school. Nobody gives a shit what those idiots teach in their own church. But when they try to bring it into a public school, people absolutely care.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:26 AM   #54
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Read the article, stupid. People care because they're wanting to teach it in a public school. Nobody gives a shit what those idiots teach in their own church. But when they try to bring it into a public school, people absolutely care.
No, I wasn't just responding to the article. There are people that care what is taught by these folks in general....even in their own schools because it's harmful to them.

But since you asked me to go by the article—this is the problem with government education. I still would allow very local districts to decide on what to teach based on their own local demographic. Or get rid of govt schools and give folks a tax credit to pay for it themselves and have something to help the less fortunate.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:37 AM   #55
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I bet this group uses scenes from Land of the Lost to describe how things were when Jesus was alive.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:11 PM   #56
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Who cares what some religions believe or want to teach. It doesn't harm any of you.
my nephew lives in Kansas and they're not rich enough to get him a good education, therefore public schools. And it's just ridiculous that they would even try to teach that bullshit, trying to warp young people's minds when they are most susceptible.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:27 PM   #57
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Science is not a viewpoint, science is a process.

Creationism is a belief system, one that often rejects scientific investigation into the validity of claims.

Science, like math and language arts are not viewpoints, they are tools for understanding and creating rational and critical thinking.

Belief systems can be paths towards fields of knowledge not accessed by empirical study, but, creationism is not even that. Creationism is an attempt to validate a particular belief that is expressly unscientific, in other words, pseudo science.

I cannot believe you just suggested science should not be mandatory in school.

"Yes, I know I express ignorant views via an informational and communicative medium that would have been impossible without science, but I think it ought to be optional in school."

Dumb, dumb, dumb.
I wasn't referring to science..dumb dumb dumb
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my nephew lives in Kansas and they're not rich enough to get him a good education, therefore public schools. And it's just ridiculous that they would even try to teach that bullshit, trying to warp young people's minds when they are most susceptible.
Uh-Huh.
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I bet this group uses scenes from Land of the Lost to describe how things were when Jesus was alive.
I bet they don't and I'm sorry this post didn't generate the comedy you thought it might. I will pray for you.
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