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View Poll Results: Would you be comfortable with this in your neighborhood?
Yes. This makes me feel safer. 13 20.00%
No. This is a violation of the 4th Amendment 50 76.92%
America is taking it up the Gaz. 2 3.08%
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:22 PM  
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:27 PM   #76
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Completely irrelevant. This is not an argument about gun control.
No, but these so-called conservatives like HCF often talk about that happening and what they would be willing to do to protect their rights. It is all bullshit, clearly.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:27 PM   #77
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We need Banyon. Im no lawyer but there must be some circumstances whereby a search can take place without the time effort and delay involved in getting a warrant.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:27 PM   #78
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As was the notion that the bad guy was in any of the houses.
Hmmm. Didn't Dorner hold up in a house??? Even took hostages at gunpoint, tied them up and took their car???

I meant held up in a house before the final shootout btw.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:29 PM   #79
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Sot of like what they used to herd people out of their home at gunpoint.
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As was the notion that the bad guy was in any of the houses.
Here's the problem with your outrage over this: NOBODY was damaged by this, and NOBODY is making the claim that warrantless searches are OK 99.999% of the time. This was a unique situation and there is precedent to allow this to happen in exigent circumstances. You can bluster all you want that you don't agree with the legal principile of exigent circumstances, but the principle exists and a majority of people agree with it.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:29 PM   #80
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No, but these so-called conservatives like HCF often talk about that happening and what they would be willing to do to protect their rights. It is all bullshit, clearly.
You are the one voicing some batshit craziness about warrant or else. Just what is your what else?
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:29 PM   #81
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We need Banyon. Im no lawyer but there must be some circumstances whereby a search can take place without the time effort and delay involved in getting a warrant.
Obviously there is. Some vague assertion about a suspect they are looking for is all that is required now.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:29 PM   #82
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Ah yes the old "slippery slope" argument.

When you know your position is ludicrous, invoke the slippery slope argument.
I fail to see how the slippery slope argument is not valid.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:29 PM   #83
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We need Banyon. Im no lawyer but there must be some circumstances whereby a search can take place without the time effort and delay involved in getting a warrant.
Has to be probable cause
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You are the one voicing some batshit craziness about warrant or else. Just what is your what else?
You are nothing but a blustering pussy when it comes down to it.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:31 PM   #85
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Obviously there is. Some vague assertion about a suspect they are looking for is all that is required now.
You're being dishonest now. This was a hell of a lot more than some vague assertion. Stop moving the goal posts.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:32 PM   #86
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Obviously there is. Some vague assertion about a suspect they are looking for is all that is required now.
Can you provide any background or is this just you perspective? Has the cort upheld vague assertions as a principal?
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Hmmm. Didn't Dorner hold up in a house??? Even took hostages at gunpoint, tied them up and took their car???

I meant held up in a house before the final shootout btw.
What? The actions of one individual, not even remotely related to this situation, is grounds for probable cause?

Are you really this stupid? Or just trolling?
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You are nothing but a blustering pussy when it comes down to it.
For ****s sake are you drunk?
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Obviously there is. Some vague assertion about a suspect they are looking for is all that is required now.
Yeah, b/c this was some vague run-of-the-mill suspect in this situation.
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You are nothing but a blustering pussy when it comes down to it.
Ok lets accept that. Now back to my original question?
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