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Old 04-19-2013, 12:01 PM  
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2 guys shut down a city

****ing pathetic....
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:32 PM   #91
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I never said don't look for him. I am calling out the fact that a bunch of people are hiding in their homes because of 1 or 2 guys and the city is all but shit down because of 1 or 2 guys.

There is a point to terrorism and that point was successfully made, unfortunately.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:33 PM   #92
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Dude, if 2 amateur bombers can all but close down a city for a few days then we have big problems.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:22 PM   #95
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Dude, if 2 amateur bombers can all but close down a city for a few days then we have big problems.
Well, would you consider bombings at the Boston Marathon that kills 3 people and seriously injures 150+ a "big problem." Because we might have had a "big problem" for a while.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:28 PM   #96
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Well, I was being TIC. You'd have to understand they dynamics between Bowser and I know. You didn't and still got it.
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:35 AM   #97
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Dude, if 2 amateur bombers can all but close down a city for a few days then we have big problems.
Yikes. The only way the 2 amateur bombers would have been spotted is to have more surveillance cameras being watched in real time or cops lined up at every block. Or without an enormous amount of security checks, which adds cost to the Boston Marathon, would drum up a ton of scrutiny for invasion of privacy, and would likely have led to a confiscation of guns including CCW. All would require a massive police state that nobody wants, especially conservatives.

So I have no idea what you're trying to imply, other than just spitting out talking points about government programs. The Boston PD did an excellent job here on an attack that would have been difficult to stop.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:10 AM   #98
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:58 AM   #100
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Yikes. The only way the 2 amateur bombers would have been spotted is to have more surveillance cameras being watched in real time or cops lined up at every block. Or without an enormous amount of security checks, which adds cost to the Boston Marathon, would drum up a ton of scrutiny for invasion of privacy, and would likely have led to a confiscation of guns including CCW. All would require a massive police state that nobody wants, especially conservatives.

So I have no idea what you're trying to imply, other than just spitting out talking points about government programs. The Boston PD did an excellent job here on an attack that would have been difficult to stop.
Don't get me wrong. I applaud the Boston PD. What I am saying is terrorism is to instill fear and to paralyze in some ways. That was acomplished by 2 students with pressure cookers.

The aftermath did look like a police state. The city of Boston shut down while the cops and military combed the streets and homes for 2 guys.

So while I agree it would have taken a police state to prevent it and that is now what we want, it pretty much took a form of a police state to end it.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:03 AM   #101
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Well, would you consider bombings at the Boston Marathon that kills 3 people and seriously injures 150+ a "big problem." Because we might have had a "big problem" for a while.
Do I consider the bombings a big problem? In some ways yes but in some ways that risk goes with having an open and free society. What I am sayin Jensen, is 2 kids were able to paralyze a city for a couple days and that raises an eyebrow. I mean if 2 kids with pressure cookers can paralyze a city like Boston for 1 or 2 days that says more about us and not them in a lot of ways.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:07 AM   #102
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Don't get me wrong. I applaud the Boston PD. What I am saying is terrorism is to instill fear and to paralyze in some ways. That was acomplished by 2 students with pressure cookers.

The aftermath did look like a police state. The city of Boston shut down while the cops and military combed the streets and homes for 2 guys.

So while I agree it would have taken a police state to prevent it and that is now what we want, it pretty much took a form of a police state to end it.
Your implication is that it was ****ing pathetic that Boston had to go into a police state to stop a terrorist attack. That's what it takes when you don't want a police state to prevent an attack.

What makes your argument flawed is that it doesn't consider the alternatives. We could have avoided this by a heavy police state to prevent it. I don't want that. We could have avoided a police state in hunting down the criminal, nevermind that this could have increased the likelihood that the scumbag could have gotten away or at least prolonged the hunt.

There was nothing pathetic about how it was handled. It was a remarkable partnership between citizens, businesses, and the police to capture two guys in a crowd. In fact, it was really remarkable.
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Don't get me wrong. I applaud the Boston PD. What I am saying is terrorism is to instill fear and to paralyze in some ways. That was acomplished by 2 students with pressure cookers.

The aftermath did look like a police state. The city of Boston shut down while the cops and military combed the streets and homes for 2 guys.

So while I agree it would have taken a police state to prevent it and that is now what we want, it pretty much took a form of a police state to end it.
And if this shithead that was on the run would have made his way onto mass transit with another bomb surrounded by hundreds/thousands of people, would that have caused more paralyzing fear down the road or less?
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Your implication is that it was ****ing pathetic that Boston had to go into a police state to stop a terrorist attack. That's what it takes when you don't want a police state to prevent an attack.

What makes your argument flawed is that it doesn't consider the alternatives. We could have avoided this by a heavy police state to prevent it. I don't want that. We could have avoided a police state in hunting down the criminal, nevermind that this could have increased the likelihood that the scumbag could have gotten away or at least prolonged the hunt.

There was nothing pathetic about how it was handled. It was a remarkable partnership between citizens, businesses, and the police to capture two guys in a crowd. In fact, it was really remarkable.
To piggyback on my own point...
There are a lot of good parallels to the gun control debate. Gun advocates focus so much on keeping the government from taking firearms out of their hands that they brush off morons (or often even defending those) who use them inappropriately. To me, that is like brushing off what these terrorists did as anything but disgusting. If you support gun rights, you should also be dead serious about laying the hammer on those who use them stupidly. This is consistent with the NRA's stance but very inconsistent from what I've seen among gun owners.

In this instance, we didn't have a police state to prevent a bombing, so we were swift and just to bring scumbags who abused that privilege to justice. I like it that way. In the same way, if we don't want a police state to prevent a shooting, then we should support a heavy hammer of justice to those who abuse this privilege. That doesn't happen today.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:39 AM   #105
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Right, so we have this missing mass murderer who was involved in a massive shootout with the cops during the middle of the night when his brother was killed, after they killed an MIT cop, by the way.

And you would recommend what, exactly? Send out girl scouts to find him? Ignore him and hope he turns himself in over the guilt? What?
Being TOLD to stay in place is crap. They should have closed schools and places where large groups gather because of the bomb possibility but not having Gas Stations, Grocery etc open was silly. Use all those cops standing around to guard the city and the people who are out and about. if you're a citizen then use conceal and carry while you go about your business.

Oh wait, it's Massacusetts they probably don't have concealed carry. This whole fiasco is why we should have armed citizens. Take care of your family but if you do go out then be packing and if some asshole tries to jack your car then you blow them away or at least die trying. Its better than hiding in your house being owned by fear. I know the chowda's are tough in many ways but why they would agree to shut down their city entirely was embarrassing and makes the US look pathetic to future would be terrorists.

I guess I just dont get the mindset of the urban East Coast citizen and a population who listens to clueless politicians who are simply guessing if it's safe to go outside or not. Hell, the Mayor let everyone out and then twenty minutes later the shots ring out. Duval Patrick has no idea what he was saying or doing. The citizens, not the cops found this kid.
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