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Old 04-18-2013, 05:28 PM  
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Additional Executive Actions' for Guns

It's far from over
Biden: 'The President Is Already Lining Up Some Additional Executive Actions' for Guns
Joe Biden says the president of the United States is preparing to take "executive actions" to deal with guns.

BuzzFeed reports:

Vice President Biden told White House allies in the gun control fight Thursday that President Obama will be announcing new executive actions on gun violence in the days after the Senate voted down a gun violence bill.

On a conference call with "stakeholders," Biden told gun control advocates that the fight is not over and that eventual action on gun control will come. Press were not invited to the conference call; a participant provided BuzzFeed with access.

"Look I know you're going to say that I'm just being an optimist and I'm trying to put a good face on this. But you know I've been around here a long time and we've already done, because of you, some really good things," Biden said. "Number one, the president is already lining up some additional executive actions he's going to be taking later this week."

After the Newtown shootings, Obama took a number of executive actions to expand research into gun violence and other areas favored by the gun control community. He took the actions without Congressional approval, leading to outrage by some conservatives.

Gun control measures failed in the Democratic-controlled Senate earlier this week.

UPDATE: And now Democratic majority leader Harry Reid has pulled the gun bill:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ns_718027.html
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:38 PM   #61
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What is the history of martial law in this country, please?
1 The American Revolution
New Orleans, Louisiana in the War of 1812
Ex parte Milligan September 15, 1863
The Great Chicago Fire 1871, Chicago mayor Roswell B. Mason declared a state of martial law
Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, 1892
San Francisco earthquake of 1906
Colorado Coalfield War In 1914, imposition of martial law
West Virginia Coal Wars (1920-1921), martial law was declared on the state of West Virginia
Tulsa Race Riot In 1921, during the Tulsa race riot, the Oklahoma National Guard declared martial law.
San Francisco, California, 1934
The Territory of Hawaii Hawaii was held under martial law from December 7, 1941 to October 24, 1944,
Freedom Riders On May 21, 1961, Governor Patterson of Montgomery, AL declared martial law
Hurricane Katrina

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Old 04-18-2013, 10:43 PM   #62
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1 The American Revolution
New Orleans, Louisiana in the War of 1812
Ex parte Milligan
The Great Chicago Fire
Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, 1892
San Francisco earthquake of 1906
Colorado Coalfield War
West Virginia Coal Wars
Tulsa Race Riot
San Francisco, California, 1934
The Territory of Hawaii
Freedom Riders
Hurricane Katrina
And even if none of that had ever taken place, it doesn't mean it couldn't/won't at some point.

The people who think that just because this is America that these could never happen here are living in la la land.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:48 PM   #63
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And even if none of that had ever taken place, it doesn't mean it couldn't/won't at some point.

The people who think that just because this is America that these could never happen here are living in la la land.
He can try and refute it all he wants. Its fact. Dont even get me going on what happened to my child's people on her mothers side. or thee interment camps of WWII
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:21 AM   #64
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And even if none of that had ever taken place, it doesn't mean it couldn't/won't at some point.

The people who think that just because this is America that these could never happen here are living in la la land.
There doesn't need to be martial law declared by the President of the United States over the country because of a protest. There would not be -- it makes no sense. There could be use of the military, or the national guard, to counter illegal actions in a protest (like bombings, for example).

Unless you mean suspension of habeas corpus (but the Constitution explicitly grants that action in times of rebellion) and having military courts. And the Supreme Court's ruling in Milligan shows the great limits to those actions in the United States.

There's a much greater chance of a right-wing assassination of Obama. After all, there's been four presidential assassinations in our history (as opposed to zero times when the president declared martial law over the country in response to rebellion).

So where is your concern for right-wing assassination?

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Old 04-19-2013, 12:14 PM   #65
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Why can the opposition never stay on point in these discussions?


History teaches us that no one is immune from tyranny forever. Just because this nation was born from the fight against oppression does not mean that it cannot ever face it again.

To believe otherwise is to lie to yourself.
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:44 PM   #66
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nah; we'll be fine. when's the next American Idol on?
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:35 PM   #67
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:38 PM   #68
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That picture was from 2009. And it's good that the president reads notable non-fiction books from notable authors.

You know anything about that book?
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:49 PM   #69
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That picture was from 2009. And it's good that the president reads notable non-fiction books from notable authors.

You know anything about that book?
Nope! Just like the pic.
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:55 PM   #70
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Nope! Just like the pic.
I didn't think you would know anything about it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:56 PM   #71
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That book is actually about the rise of the Third World countries...like Asia. Not about the decline of America. It's written by a liberal hawk aka a NeoCon. Reviews and interviews sound like it's about globalism. But I'm sure Obama was lured to the book by the title.
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I didn't think you would know anything about it.
You read the book?
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But I'm sure Obama was lured to the book by the title.
Not a chance.
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:00 PM   #74
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You read the book?
I have not, but I've read of it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:41 PM   #75
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You're irrational.
This nations forefathers didn't think it was irrational, thus the whole reason for the second amendment. They fully expected that this nation would at some point move towards tyranny and it would be necessary for the citizenry to be armed to clean house.

Obama doesn't want an armed citizenry he wants it controlled.
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