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Old 04-13-2013, 08:59 AM  
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U.S. tells N.Korea new missile launch would be "huge mistake"

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SEOUL (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry warned North Korea on Friday it would be a "huge mistake" to test launch a medium-range missile and said the United States would never accept the reclusive country as a nuclear power.
Addressing reporters after talks with South Korea's president and leaders of the 28,000-strong U.S. military contingent in the country, Kerry also said it was up to China, North Korea's sole major ally, to "put some teeth" into efforts to press Pyongyang to abandon its nuclear ambitions.
Kerry, like other U.S. officials, played down an assessment from the Pentagon's intelligence agency that the North already had a nuclear missile capacity.
The United States, he said, wanted to resume talks about North Korea's earlier pledges to halt its nuclear programme.
But he also stressed that Washington would defend its allies in the region if necessary and pointedly said that Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, "needs to understand, as I think he probably does, what the outcome of a conflict would be".
North Korea has repeatedly said it will not abandon nuclear weapons which it said on Friday were its "treasured" guarantor of security.
Kerry's visit coincided with preparations for Monday's anniversary of North Korean state founder Kim Il-Sung's birth date, a possible pretext for a show of strength, with speculation focusing on a possible new missile test launch.
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Kerry, who flies to China on Saturday and to Japan on Sunday, said that if North Korea's 30-year-old leader went ahead with the launch, "he will be choosing, wilfully, to ignore the entire international community".
"I would say ahead of time that it is a huge mistake for him to choose to do that because it will further isolate his country and further isolate his people, who frankly are desperate for food, not missile launches."
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The North has issued weeks of shrill threats of an impending war following the imposition of U.N. sanctions in response to its third nuclear test in February. Kerry said the threats were "simply unacceptable" by any standard.
"We are all united in the fact that North Korea will not be accepted as a nuclear power," he said.
Kerry later told U.S. executives in Seoul that China, as an advocate of denuclearisation, was in a position to press for a change in the North's policy.
"The reality is that if your policy is denuclearisation and it is theirs as it is ours, as it is everybody's except the North at this moment ... if that's your policy, you've got to put some teeth into it," he told the gathering.
But North Korea showed little inclination for further talks.
Rodong Sinmun, the mouthpiece of the ruling Workers' Party, said Pyongyang would never abandon its nuclear programme.
"The DPRK will hold tighter the treasured sword, nuclear weapons," it said, referring to the country by its official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
BIRTHDAY CELEBRATIONS
North Korean state television showed footage of newscasts from other countries depicting the trajectory a North Korean missile launch might take.
It also showed preparations for the Kim Il-Sung birthday festivities, including floral tributes, and a stadium of thousands of school children of the Korean Children's Union, each wearing a red scarf and saluting and marching in unison.
Speculation has mounted of an impending medium-range missile test launch in the North after reports in South Korea and the United States that as many as five medium-range missiles have been moved into position on the country's east coast.
Officials in both countries believe the North is preparing to test-launch a Musudan missile, whose range of 3,500 km (2,100 miles) or more would put Japan within striking distance and may threaten the island of Guam, which houses U.S. military bases.
The North has been angry about annual military drills between U.S. and South Korean forces, describing them as a "hostile" act. The United States dispatched B52 and B2 stealth bombers from their bases to take part.
Hours before Kerry's arrival, a U.S. lawmaker quoted a report by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency, one of the 17 bodies that make up the U.S. intelligence community, as saying it had "moderate confidence" that North Korea had developed a nuclear bomb that could be fitted on a ballistic missile.
But Kerry poured cold water on the report said it was "inaccurate to suggest that the DPRK has fully tested, developed capabilities" as set down in the document.
South Korea's Defence Ministry said it did not believe North Korea could mount a nuclear warhead on a missile.
A U.S. official had earlier suggested that Washington's greatest concern was the possibility of unexpected developments linked to Kim Jong-un's "youth and inexperience". Asked if war seemed imminent, he replied: "Not at all."
South Korean President Park Geun-hye, meeting officials from her ruling Saenuri Party before her talks with Kerry, struck a conciliatory note by suggesting Seoul should at least listen to what North Korea had to say.
"We have a lot of issues, including the Kaesong industrial zone," local media quoted her as saying. So should we not meet with them and ask: "Just what are you trying to do?'"
The president was referring to North Korea's closure this week of the jointly run Kaesong industrial park, with the loss of 53,000 jobs.
Kerry said the United States would not object to the South talking to the North. He also did not rule out the possibility of U.S. aid some day flowing to the North, but suggested this could only happen if Pyongyang undertook real denuclearisation.
Kerry sounded upbeat about resolving a dispute between the United States and South Korea over a civil nuclear cooperation agreement that expires next year, saying he thought a compromise could be found by Park's visit to Washington next month.
South Korea is believed to want the right to reprocess its spent nuclear fuel, which would allow it to deal with a mounting stockpile of nuclear waste.
However, this could also allow it to produce bomb-grade fissile material, a step Washington is loathe to see it take in part because of its nuclear standoffs with Iran and North Korea.
"We are ... very concerned at this time about not having any ingredients that could alter our approach ... to either of those," he said. But Kerry added that he was "confident that one option or another will be able to come to fruition (with South Korea) by the time that President Park comes to Washington."*
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:28 PM   #76
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The same guy you called gullible to start .

Your point is extremely unclear because you keep wavering.
Bowser is posting differently on the topic than he did earlier. I haven't wavered one bit.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:30 PM   #77
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Bowser is posting differently on the topic than he did earlier. I haven't wavered one bit.


No he isn't, you silly broad. Feel free to list examples of the differences.

I know you won't.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:30 PM   #78
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:31 PM   #79
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Bowser is posting differently on the topic than he did earlier. I haven't wavered one bit.
Lol! Yeah, sorry, but I'm really not.

In all the various threads I've never once been like OMG HERE IT COMES LET'S GO TO WAR. These guys are bullshit artists, always have been. I've never once believed or stated differently, despite what news stories I've posted on the subject.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:31 PM   #80
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No he isn't, you silly broad. Feel free to list examples of the differences.

I know you won't.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:33 PM   #81
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Sorry BEP, but I got YOU to come around to OUR way of thinking. You're welcome.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:34 PM   #82
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Lol! Yeah, sorry, but I'm really not.

In all the various threads I've never once been like OMG HERE IT COMES LET'S GO TO WAR. These guys are bullshit artists, always have been. I've never once believed or stated differently, despite what news stories I've posted on the subject.
This is the impression I got too.

Just stop being so damn gullible, though.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:34 PM   #83
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Sorry BEP, but I got YOU to come around to OUR way of thinking. You're welcome.
Nope.

That was my position in all my earlier posts on this NK thingy. I linked to an earlier post for proof.
Earlier, you posted as if they'd really start a war so they had to be taken seriously.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:36 PM   #84
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Sorry BEP, but I got YOU to come around to OUR way of thinking. You're welcome.
I think, for her, just having a discussion like we had earlier in this thread about nukes makes you in her mind a warmonger.

Or something.
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Holy shit. She thinks you were being serious in post 21.

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Thread where it was suggested NK was going to start a war

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North Korea to 'launch missile TOMORROW' after warning foreigners to evacuate South



Date: 4-09-2013

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I admit this is scarey but NK has done it before. Ivan Eland notes "In prior episodes, despite martial demonstrations against North Korea’s threats, South Korea and the United States have caved in to bribery by providing foreign assistance to calm the situation down."

They should be ignored, not because it's the ultimate insult, but it doesn't reward them.


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I was thinking the same thing earlier. Why tell everyone, if they really mean it. It's a shakedown for money. They can't feed their people.
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So it's like what, 4 pm over there right now? Are they waiting for the entire world to actually be April 10th before we all get bombed to oblivion? That is so considerate!
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:41 PM   #88
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This is the impression I got too.

Just stop being so damn gullible, though.
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Holy shit. She thinks you were being serious in post 21.

Oh hell!

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NORTH KOREANS HATE MONTERREY JACK CHEESE THEREFORE MONTERREY CALIFORNIA MUST DIE!!!



Oh God, I actually have tears in my eyes.
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