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Old 04-10-2013, 06:24 AM  
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Tennessee Republicans threaten to kill GOP voucher bill over fear of funding Muslim schools

By David Edwards
Tuesday, April 2, 2013 15:58 EDT


Republican lawmakers in Tennessee are threatening to block Republican Gov. Bill Haslam’s school voucher bill over fears that Muslim schools could receive funding.

The Knoxville News Sentinel reported on Monday that Haslam hinted that he would withdraw his bill after objections from Republican lawmakers that it was not broad enough and that the vouchers could be used by Islamic schools.

Over the weekend, state Sen. Jim Tracy (R) had told The Murfreesboro Post that he had “considerable concern” that tax dollars could go to schools that teach principles from the Quran.


Tracy, who is on the Senate Education Committee and identifies himself as a member of the Church of Christ, insisted that Islamic school funding was an “an issue we must address” before the voucher bill can go forward.

“I don’t know whether we can simply amend the bill in such a way that will fix the issue at this point,” he said.

On Monday, Tracy told the News Sentinel that his staff had determined that there was at least one Muslim-oriented school — Pleasant View School in Memphis — that would be eligible for vouchers under the governor’s plan.

And state Senate Majority Leader Mark Norris (R) worried that an attempt by Sen. Brian Kelsey (R) to broaden Haslam’s bill from the bottom 5 percent of schools to every school in the state would only make more tax dollars available to Islamic educators.

“That’s just another reason for not amending the governor’s bill,” Norris pointed out.

State Sen. Bill Ketron (R), who sponsored a 2009 bill that would have banned Sharia law in Tennessee, hoped to slow the entire process down.


“These issues warrant further assessment,” he remarked to The Murfreesboro Post. “What’s the rush?”

Last week, Ketron had demanded answers from state Senate Clerk Russell Humphrey over concerns that a floor-level sink installed outside the House chamber men’s restroom could be intended to accommodate Muslims’ ritual of washing their feet before prayer.

Humphrey took the matter up with Legislative Administration Director Connie Ridley, who assured the men in an email that “the floor-level sink installed in the men’s restroom outside the House Chamber is for housekeeping use.”

“It is, in layman’s terms, a mop sink,” Ridley wrote.

From:http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/0...uslim-schools/

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Old 04-10-2013, 05:40 PM   #16
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If it takes hatred of Muslims or Jews or Catholics to kill idiot bills like this... I'm all for it. Tax payer money should NEVER .. EVER... ****ING EVER... be used for religious indoctrination. PERIOD. So if you want to send your kids to Catholic school (like I went to) or Christian School or whatever... pay for it your own damn self.
Holy shit we agree on something.

Vouchers are a ****ing terrible idea anyways without even considering the religious doctrination aspect.
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:41 PM   #17
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But it is okay to use tax payer money to send kids to be indoctrinated in public schools?
Yea, teaching kids how to write, do math, and read is indoctrination
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:45 PM   #18
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:48 PM   #19
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:54 PM   #20
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But it is okay to use tax payer money to send kids to be indoctrinated in public schools?
No, but I see that as a completely separate issue. (and there certainly are some issues here that need to addressed)

Vouchers offer far far far more problems than solutions. I take separation of Church and State very seriously and this would cross all sorts of lines opening up religion to state interference and forcing state sanction of various religions... just a complete can of ****ed up worms that we don't need to open ourselves to.
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:56 PM   #21
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Holy shit we agree on something.

Vouchers are a ****ing terrible idea anyways without even considering the religious doctrination aspect.
Actually that is the MOST important aspect.. if you completely ignore that, they aren't "terrible" ideas... just marginally bad ideas.

That fact that you agree on this makes me wonder if I have somehow made a serious error in logic to reach my current stance... reevaluating now...
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:01 PM   #22
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Actually that is the MOST important aspect.. if you completely ignore that, they aren't "terrible" ideas... just marginally bad ideas.

That fact that you agree on this makes me wonder if I have somehow made a serious error in logic to reach my current stance... reevaluating now...
Despite many people's contentions, I harbor some libertarian principles. I'm unabashedly liberal but have libertarian streaks.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:15 PM   #23
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Yea, teaching kids how to write, do math, and read is indoctrination

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...ite-privilege/

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...trination.html

Not really a story on education but, the opening paragraphs serve my purpose here -

http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/stunner-c...tile-gay-duos/

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=22208

http://www.examiner.com/article/ct-s...t-to-bear-arms


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Old 04-10-2013, 06:18 PM   #24
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...ite-privilege/

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...trination.html

Not really a story on education but, the opening paragraphs serve my purpose here -

http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/stunner-c...tile-gay-duos/

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=22208

http://www.examiner.com/article/ct-s...t-to-bear-arms


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you think editorials from conservative writers prove your indoctrination point?
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you think editorials from conservative writers prove your indoctrination point?
The editorials are based on actual events.
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The editorials are based on actual events.
You must have surveillance video of the actual events or else KC Native considers your stories debunked.
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You must have surveillance video of the actual events or else KC Native considers your stories debunked.
He is welcome to join Frankie and provide links.
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If it takes hatred of Muslims or Jews or Catholics to kill idiot bills like this... I'm all for it. Tax payer money should NEVER .. EVER... ****ING EVER... be used for religious indoctrination. PERIOD. So if you want to send your kids to Catholic school (like I went to) or Christian School or whatever... pay for it your own damn self.
Totally, totally, totally agree.

By their very definition, PUBLIC schools are the schools paid for with tax dollars. Diverting money away from public schools and sending it to private schools via vouchers is ****ing moronic. It just makes it that much more likely that the public schools will be of poor quality.

If you've got a problem with public schools, you've got two choices: fight to make the public schools better, or send your kids to private school on your own dime.
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