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Old 04-06-2013, 03:54 PM  
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Mellinger: First three months of Dorsey’s Chiefs regime far cry from *****’s

First three months of Dorsey’s Chiefs regime far cry from *****’s
By Sam Mellinger
The Kansas City Star
John Dorsey knows Kansas City. By now you’ve heard that part of his story. His wife is from the area, and their first date was at Jack Stack. When the Chiefs introduced him as their new general manager, he called it his dream job.

But living in a place can be very different than visiting. He just bought a house here. This is real now. Working a dream job can be very different than dreaming about it. So we wanted to check in after three months and see if anything had changed.

“No way, this place is awesome, man,” he says. “Here’s an example. We went down to Oklahoma Joe’s (on Wednesday), Andy and I and some other guys, and we sat in line for 40 minutes. The people were great. This is the good thing about the Midwest: Everybody respects your space. It’s a cool thing.

“Some guys would come up and talk to us; they’re genuinely excited. That’s what it’s all about. It’s the people, man.”

Dorsey will talk your ear off about Kansas City. The other day, as the lawn mower was going by his office window, he realized it was never this nice in Green Bay until mid-May, at least. You hear Dorsey talk, and you hear others in the Chiefs offices talk about him, and you begin to understand a franchise-defining change.

We don’t know if Dorsey will succeed in Kansas City. Nobody does. But after three months, there are clues about how the Chiefs are, and will continue to be, different.

He doesn’t spend any time trash-talking his predecessor, for one. This was a favorite pastime of Scott *****’s. Publicly and privately, directly and indirectly, ***** wanted you to know what kind of mess he inherited.

Dorsey never mentions that he arrives on the heels of what many involved called the worst football year of their lives.

“We’re just trying to get people excited, because that’s a good working environment,” Dorsey says.

The second major difference between this regime change and the one that preceded it is that Dorsey isn’t overhauling the front office. ***** talked constantly of changing the culture and spent a lot of time firing and hiring people. Dorsey has spent a large chunk of his time meeting and working with and listening to people who were here long before January.

“Not one guy has all the answers, my God,” Dorsey says. “This is a hard job now. There are going to be some people here who are going to help and it’s good to have everybody here to do this.”

That leads to the third major difference between Dorsey and *****. Whenever possible, ***** would namedrop Bill Belichick. Dorsey doesn’t talk much about Green Bay. Doesn’t tell stories about drafting Aaron Rodgers or winning the Super Bowl with the league’s youngest roster or what they saw in Clay Matthews that 25 other teams passed on ... unless you ask.

Dorsey isn’t coming to Kansas City expecting people to kiss his Super Bowl rings as much as he’s hoping the people here can help him win another one.

“I think you’ve got to earn everybody’s respect,” he says. “I’m trying to earn everybody’s respect in the organization. I only know one way. I have no ego. I like to work. I like work, I like football, and I love my family.”

The Chiefs’ last four years were filled with drama. Carl Peterson ran the organization for two decades, and although he probably should have been replaced a year or two earlier, you can now look back and see a professionalism that went missing when he departed. He had his quirks — quite frankly… — but people genuinely liked working for him. There’s something to be said for that.

It’s only three months, of course, but there seems to be a steadiness and professionalism returning to the Chiefs’ offices. You don’t hear stories of paranoia, or micromanaging, or bizarre rules about who can make color copies.

This is still an NFL organization, so secrets are still closely guarded. Besides, NFL teams are bigger than the general manager. Owner Clark Hunt was going to push his franchise in this direction no matter who he hired as general manager.

But the sense from the inside is one of confidence, comfort and a renewed optimism. You can see that in Dorsey as he talks about the rewards of hard work and the focus on empowering his scouts. Get people invested, he says. Get them excited. That’s how you build a winning culture.

Again, we don’t know how this story will end. Dorsey is only three months into the job. His first draft is three weeks off, his first game six months away. All we have are these hints. But all these hints are positive.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:55 PM   #151
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Peyton Manning threw for 37 TDs and 4700 yards.

A team that had basically no passing offense the year prior.

You are being obtuse, homer.
Wow you are a dumbshit.

Denver had no passing offense in 2011 because of Tim Tebow... not because they didn't have talent on offense.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:57 PM   #152
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I was also told that the Bills have no interest in Smith, have targeted Nassib and will take him with their second round pick, so eliminate him from contention.

Will laugh extremely hard if the Jets snag him.
The Jets are a ****ing mess.

They have the world's biggest albatross around their neck in Mark Sanchez, and the second biggest in Tim Tebow.

There is no way in hell that they add to that disaster by taking a QB in the first round.

Pass rusher all the way.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:58 PM   #153
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Wow you are a dumbshit.

Denver had no passing offense in 2011 because of Tim Tebow... not because they didn't have talent on offense.
Peyton Manning still elevated that offense at an incredible rate.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:01 PM   #154
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I was also told that the Bills have no interest in Smith, have targeted Nassib and will take him with their second round pick, so eliminate him from contention.

Will laugh extremely hard if the Jets snag him.
I would feel terrible for geno. that franchise is beyond shit.
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Peyton Manning still elevated that offense at an incredible rate.
there is no denying that.
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Dane said as much.

Can't wait for Alex to break dem franchise records!
Remember that idiotic record that tied Cassel and Montana together? I see more of that kind of bullshit coming, yep.
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I asked someone I've known a long time that has worked in the FO with Carl, ***** and Dorsey about the differences.

He said the first day ***** took over and was introduced to the building, he corrected people who worked 20+ years for the Chiefs that called him Scott instead of Mr. *****.

They said Dorsey and Andy both have been incredible in restoring morale. Dorsey and Andy will randomly invite random staff to go with them to lunch so they can get to know each other better.

My friend is a beat writer for the Jets who gets quotes for articles frequently from several agents. He asked an agent what the perception of Dorsey is around the league. Agent said you won't find a nicer person in the league than John Dorsey. He followed up with a ***** question and the agent said that *****'s demeanor changed completely compared to when he was in New England. He became intolerable and let the power go straight to his head.

The Chiefs are in very good hands with Dorsey. I honestly expect him to be the GM of this team for 10+ years.
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I asked someone I've known a long time that has worked in the FO with Carl, ***** and Dorsey about the differences.

He said the first day ***** took over and was introduced to the building, he corrected people who worked 20+ years for the Chiefs that called him Scott instead of Mr. *****.

They said Dorsey and Andy both have been incredible in restoring morale. Dorsey and Andy will randomly invite random staff to go with them to lunch so they can get to know each other better.

My friend is a beat writer for the Jets who gets quotes for articles frequently from several agents. He asked an agent what the perception of Dorsey is around the league. Agent said you won't find a nicer person in the league than John Dorsey. He followed up with a ***** question and the agent said that *****'s demeanor changed completely compared to when he was in New England. He became intolerable and let the power go straight to his head.

The Chiefs are in very good hands with Dorsey. I honestly expect him to be the GM of this team for 10+ years.
Awesome. That's great to hear.
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They said Dorsey and Andy both have been incredible in restoring morale. Dorsey and Andy will randomly invite random staff to go with them to lunch so they can get to know each other better.
That is ****ing awesome. I love these guys.

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Old 04-07-2013, 01:34 PM   #161
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Also, Jim Irsay's #1 target for the Colts GM opening was John Dorsey.

Dorsey declined to interview for the spot because he literally said he would stay in Green Bay forever if the Chiefs job never opened.

That's how bad this guy wanted to be here.

He passed on the chance to basically walk into a situation with Andrew Luck to wait for this job that he had no assurances would open anytime soon.
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The Jets are a ****ing mess.

They have the world's biggest albatross around their neck in Mark Sanchez, and the second biggest in Tim Tebow.

There is no way in hell that they add to that disaster by taking a QB in the first round.

Pass rusher all the way.
I was thinking of them taking Nassib in the 2nd. IIRC, they pick a few spots before Buffalo.
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Also, Jim Irsay's #1 target for the Colts GM opening was John Dorsey.

Dorsey declined to interview for the spot because he literally said he would stay in Green Bay forever if the Chiefs job never opened.

That's how bad this guy wanted to be here.

He passed on the chance to basically walk into a situation with Andrew Luck to wait for this job that he had no assurances would open anytime soon.
Now he can get the second best thing in Geno.
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Also, Jim Irsay's #1 target for the Colts GM opening was John Dorsey.

Dorsey declined to interview for the spot because he literally said he would stay in Green Bay forever if the Chiefs job never opened.

That's how bad this guy wanted to be here.

He passed on the chance to basically walk into a situation with Andrew Luck to wait for this job that he had no assurances would open anytime soon.
Wow.

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Old 04-07-2013, 01:53 PM   #165
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Now he can get the second best thing in Geno.
You're ****ing delusional. You should really watch the draft with others so if they do pass on Geno that you don't do something stupid to yourself.
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