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Old 04-06-2013, 03:54 PM  
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Mellinger: First three months of Dorsey’s Chiefs regime far cry from *****’s

First three months of Dorsey’s Chiefs regime far cry from *****’s
By Sam Mellinger
The Kansas City Star
John Dorsey knows Kansas City. By now you’ve heard that part of his story. His wife is from the area, and their first date was at Jack Stack. When the Chiefs introduced him as their new general manager, he called it his dream job.

But living in a place can be very different than visiting. He just bought a house here. This is real now. Working a dream job can be very different than dreaming about it. So we wanted to check in after three months and see if anything had changed.

“No way, this place is awesome, man,” he says. “Here’s an example. We went down to Oklahoma Joe’s (on Wednesday), Andy and I and some other guys, and we sat in line for 40 minutes. The people were great. This is the good thing about the Midwest: Everybody respects your space. It’s a cool thing.

“Some guys would come up and talk to us; they’re genuinely excited. That’s what it’s all about. It’s the people, man.”

Dorsey will talk your ear off about Kansas City. The other day, as the lawn mower was going by his office window, he realized it was never this nice in Green Bay until mid-May, at least. You hear Dorsey talk, and you hear others in the Chiefs offices talk about him, and you begin to understand a franchise-defining change.

We don’t know if Dorsey will succeed in Kansas City. Nobody does. But after three months, there are clues about how the Chiefs are, and will continue to be, different.

He doesn’t spend any time trash-talking his predecessor, for one. This was a favorite pastime of Scott *****’s. Publicly and privately, directly and indirectly, ***** wanted you to know what kind of mess he inherited.

Dorsey never mentions that he arrives on the heels of what many involved called the worst football year of their lives.

“We’re just trying to get people excited, because that’s a good working environment,” Dorsey says.

The second major difference between this regime change and the one that preceded it is that Dorsey isn’t overhauling the front office. ***** talked constantly of changing the culture and spent a lot of time firing and hiring people. Dorsey has spent a large chunk of his time meeting and working with and listening to people who were here long before January.

“Not one guy has all the answers, my God,” Dorsey says. “This is a hard job now. There are going to be some people here who are going to help and it’s good to have everybody here to do this.”

That leads to the third major difference between Dorsey and *****. Whenever possible, ***** would namedrop Bill Belichick. Dorsey doesn’t talk much about Green Bay. Doesn’t tell stories about drafting Aaron Rodgers or winning the Super Bowl with the league’s youngest roster or what they saw in Clay Matthews that 25 other teams passed on ... unless you ask.

Dorsey isn’t coming to Kansas City expecting people to kiss his Super Bowl rings as much as he’s hoping the people here can help him win another one.

“I think you’ve got to earn everybody’s respect,” he says. “I’m trying to earn everybody’s respect in the organization. I only know one way. I have no ego. I like to work. I like work, I like football, and I love my family.”

The Chiefs’ last four years were filled with drama. Carl Peterson ran the organization for two decades, and although he probably should have been replaced a year or two earlier, you can now look back and see a professionalism that went missing when he departed. He had his quirks — quite frankly… — but people genuinely liked working for him. There’s something to be said for that.

It’s only three months, of course, but there seems to be a steadiness and professionalism returning to the Chiefs’ offices. You don’t hear stories of paranoia, or micromanaging, or bizarre rules about who can make color copies.

This is still an NFL organization, so secrets are still closely guarded. Besides, NFL teams are bigger than the general manager. Owner Clark Hunt was going to push his franchise in this direction no matter who he hired as general manager.

But the sense from the inside is one of confidence, comfort and a renewed optimism. You can see that in Dorsey as he talks about the rewards of hard work and the focus on empowering his scouts. Get people invested, he says. Get them excited. That’s how you build a winning culture.

Again, we don’t know how this story will end. Dorsey is only three months into the job. His first draft is three weeks off, his first game six months away. All we have are these hints. But all these hints are positive.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:27 PM   #136
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49ers elite positional talent - 1

Manning - 0

Smith was just along for that ride.
And Manning carried his team with no talent on offense or defense?

Interesting.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:29 PM   #137
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Forgot they had a bye. Either way Smith 1 - Manning 0.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:29 PM   #138
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And Manning carried his team with no talent on offense or defense?

Interesting.
Peyton Manning threw for 37 TDs and 4700 yards.

A team that had basically no passing offense the year prior.

You are being obtuse, homer.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:29 PM   #139
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i cant wait for the chiefs to finally bust out with some 5 yard dump offs and 9 yard TE flares , FINALLY we will have an elite short range passer to accomplish this massive task
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:31 PM   #140
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Wait a minute, I was told this past season was the best team Manning has ever played on. And he had played on a team that won a Super Bowl and another that would've gone 16-0 if they hadn't rested their starters. Now I'm confused.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:33 PM   #141
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i cant wait for the chiefs to finally bust out with some 5 yard dump offs and 9 yard TE flares , FINALLY we will have an elite short range passer to accomplish this massive task
For a guy who claims to watch a ton of 49er games, you sure do spout a lot of bullshit in regards to them........who did Alex Smith target the most last year???

Answer, because you are simple.

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Old 04-07-2013, 12:34 PM   #142
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Wait a minute, I was told this past season was the best team Manning has ever played on. And he had played on a team that won a Super Bowl and another that would've gone 16-0 if they hadn't rested their starters. Now I'm confused.
It might of been his best overall team when you factor in the defense. His offenses with James, Wayne, Harrison, Pollard, Clark, those were far superior offensively.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:35 PM   #143
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Wait a minute, I was told this past season was the best team Manning has ever played on. And he had played on a team that won a Super Bowl and another that would've gone 16-0 if they hadn't rested their starters. Now I'm confused.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:40 PM   #144
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I am far from stupid Hamas. I know Manning is a far superior QB than Alex Smith, I am just tired of the ridiculousness that is the Manning love fest and the Alex Smith hate fest.

You dont think Smith's negatives have been greatly exaggerated simply because he is not what people wanted?

I would rather draft Geno myself but you dont think people aren't finding every negative they can and magnifying it because they wanted Geno.

Go back to the 2011 season game threads and see who here thought Alex Smith sucked. There may have been a few but most people thought he was far superior to anything we have and now that we have him, well he is no better than Cassel. ****ing Clay had a thread dedicated to sucking Alex Smith's dick.

Yea I am stupid, that's the issue at hand. If I am stupid many of the people here should be dead from inability to rember to breath.
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SHUT UP! You're DONE deep throating Chiefs hires from the Philadelphia tree. YOU HEAR ME. We will not endure five years of Andy Reid blowjobs from you after the Vermeil Incident.
Way to avoid my point. But that said I think Reid has gotten the best out of the QB's he has had. Which may not be saying much but it's something. It's concerning how he's never had success without Jim Johnson though. We will see.

I'll say this much, if DV had coached the last 6 years we may have never gotten younger, but we sure wouldn't have had this Sunday buffet of human feces at the QB position.
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I understand that some people feel that way but I spoke to someone today at great length that's been a frequent contributor for two decades at both ESPN and the NFL Network that had the opposite view.

Without going into too much detail, the "League" views the Chiefs as a real playoff threat this season and the consensus is that the Alex Smith move was genius, especially when coupled with Reid. The "League" has also been extremely impressed with their moves in free agency.

I was also told that the Bills have no interest in Smith, have targeted Nassib and will take him with their second round pick, so eliminate him from contention. If there's an unlikely run on QB's, they'll be more than happy to trade up into the late first round and grab him.

Take it for what it's worth. It's not "Bible" but it was interesting and I appreciated the input, especially since we're so close to the draft.

Again, FWIW.
This relies on the assumption that Alex Smith will be able to start all 16 games and stay healthy... a significant question mark considering he's been able to stay healthy an entire season only twice during his 8 year career so far.
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I am far from stupid Hamas. I know Manning is a far superior QB than Alex Smith, I am just tired of the ridiculousness that is the Manning love fest and the Alex Smith hate fest.

You dont think Smith's negatives have been greatly exaggerated simply because he is not what people wanted?

I would rather draft Geno myself but you dont think people aren't finding every negative they can and magnifying it because they wanted Geno.

Go back to the 2011 season game threads and see who here thought Alex Smith sucked. There may have been a few but most people thought he was far superior to anything we have and now that we have him, well he is no better than Cassel. ****ing Clay had a thread dedicated to sucking Alex Smith's dick.

Yea I am stupid, that's the issue at hand. If I am stupid many of the people here should be dead from inability to rember to breath.
I know A LOT were sucking off Alex Smith when they beat the Saints in that play off game.
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I was also told that the Bills have no interest in Smith, have targeted Nassib and will take him with their second round pick, so eliminate him from contention.

Will laugh extremely hard if the Jets snag him.
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