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Flanagan:McCluster could be Andy Reidís secret weapon

McCluster could be Andy Reidís secret weapon

KANSAS CITY, Mo. Ė If anyone in the Chiefsí offense should be excited about the arrival of new coach Andy Reid, it would be Dexter McCluster.

The diminutive McCluster (5 feet 8, 170 pounds) was drafted in 2010 as a multi-purpose weapon, which he was that season with the Chiefs with Todd Haley as coach and Charlie Weis as offensive coordinator.

As a rookie, McCluster caught 21 passes for 209 yards, returned 13 punts (including a 94-yarder for a touchdown), returned 26 kickoffs for 527 yards and rushed 18 times for 71 yards (six of those rushes went for first downs).

And with Weis gone in 2011 but his system still in place, McCluster caught 46 passes for 328 yards and ran 114 times for 516 yards, along with his punt and kickoff return duties.

But that versatility screeched to a halt under new coach Romeo Crennel and new offensive coordinator Brain Daboll in 2012. McCluster was virtually eliminated from the return game, rushed only 12 times all season, and was used almost exclusively as a slot receiver.

Reid already has vowed he will use McCluster much like Weis did Ė in a variety of roles.

"Heís a unique talent because he can do a few different things for you, whether itís special teams as a returner, or whether itís offense as a receiver or a running back," Reid said. "You saw what Charlie [Weis] did with him the one year where he kind of mixed him in the different positions offensively and he can handle that. Heís a sharp kid. Obviously heís a talented kid."

Reid wouldnít take the bait when asked why anyone would reduce McClusterís role as much as the Chiefs did last year.

"He was banged up just a bit and he played through it," Reid said, stone-faced. "I think that storyís been told. He was really put in one position as a slot receiver. I think his value Ė and itís a tribute to him Ė is that you can move him into different spots where you can utilize his talents the best.

"I know heís a tough kid and I know heís a hard worker. So weíll try to put him in positions where we can exploit what he does best or what we feel he does best."

Reid, in fact, liked McCluster so much that he wanted to make him an Eagle in 2010.

"You know what, I was interested in drafting him, it just didnít fall that way," Reid said. "But I did have some interest. I liked him as a football player."

McCluster said he wasnít aware the Eagles were ready to draft him. The Eagles were one spot behind the Chiefs when Kansas City took McCluster with the 36th overall pick. The Eagles wound up with safety Nate Allen at No. 37.

"I had no idea," McCluster said. "Itís nice to know. But I didnít visit them or anything."

But McCluster is ready to get acquainted with the Reid offense.

"I have not gone back and watched any film from Coach Reid," McCluster said. "But as a person that watches football, Iíve seen the success his offense has brought. He knows offense."

Reid already has told McCluster changes are coming in how he will be used.

"I know he said he wants to use me in multiple places," McCluster said. "Thatís the type of player I am and the type of player Iíve always been.

"Now Iíll have the opportunity to showcase my talents and what I do best."

And if McCluster were suddenly anointed the offensive coordinator, how would he utilize his talents?

"Oh, man, I donít know," he said, laughing. "My best role is to keep the defense on their toes. Move me around. Keep them guessing."

First things first: McCluster and the Chiefs will have to rid themselves of any recollection of 2012 and the 2-14 record.

"Honestly, me personally, I erased it from my memory the minute the season was over," he said. "Yes, itís definitely a new beginning. There are a lot of people that look like theyíre ready to go.

"I feel like itís going to be a good change."

It certainly should be for McCluster.

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Reid has big plans for McCluster
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
Andy Reid wanted to draft Dexter McCluster in 2010, when Reid coached the Philadelphia Eagles and McCluster was coming out of college at Mississippi.

The Chiefs got to McCluster instead, taking him with a pick early in the second round. But itís no coincidence that one of Reidís favorite topics since joining the Chiefs in January as their new coach is McCluster and what he can do for the Chiefs on offense as a receiver and a runner and on special teams.

ďHeís not the biggest guy in the world, but heís got a heart of a lion,Ē Reid said. ďHeís got that Ö tremendous quickness and can catch. Heís pretty good at running the football, so there is a place for him. You line him up everywhere. You can move him around and kind of do some unique things with him.

ďI like McCluster. I think heís a good football player and he has a role on this football team. Iíve got some things in mind for him.Ē

This wouldnít be the first time that the Chiefs had big plans for McCluster. But he has only infrequently lived up to them.

His signature play from his three seasons with the Chiefs came in his first regular-season game when he returned a punt for a touchdown to spark a victory over San Diego. Otherwise, McCluster has 119 catches, 657 rushing yards and four touchdowns, but few big plays of the game-changing variety.

Reid and offensive coordinator Doug Pederson may not be able to get anything more from McCluster, though it sounds as if they will try.

ďI was interested in drafting him,Ē Reid said. ďIt just didnít fall that way. But I did have some interest. I liked him as a football player. Heís a unique talent because he can do a couple, three different things for you whether itís special teams as a returner or whether itís offense as a receiver or a running back.

ďHis value Ö is that you can move him into different spots where you can utilize his talents the best. You saw what Charlie (Weis) did with him the one year when he kind of mixed him in the different positions offensively. He can handle it. Heís a sharp kid. Obviously heís a talented kid.Ē

For his part, McCluster thought the Eagles might draft him in 2010. He said that at the time he had never met Reid and didnít visit the Eagles in Philadelphia before the draft but ďthere were rumors circulating that he had some interest in me.Ē

Reid will be McClusterís third head coach and Pederson his fourth offensive coordinator. While the others generally kept McCluster at a certain position for an entire season ó he lined up mostly as a receiver in 2010 and 2012 and a running back in 2011 ó the Chiefs donít plan a specific role for McCluster.

That suits him well.

ďKeeping the defense on their toes,Ē McCluster said. ďMove me around, make a headache for the defense. He said he wants to use me in multiple places. Thatís the type of player I am and thatís the type of player Iíve been. Now I have the opportunity to showcase what I can really do.Ē

McCluster said heís as frustrated as anyone that he hasnít delivered more big plays. He played in all 16 games the past two seasons and was the Chiefsí second-leading rusher in 2011 and their second-leading pass receiver last season.

But he said a better test of what he was capable of would come this season.

ďI would just say opportunity,Ē McCluster said when asked why he hasnít been the player the Chiefs, and apparently Reid, envisioned when he was drafted. ďOpportunity has been limited. Iím not a guy thatís always complaining how I want the ball and I need the ball. The chips are going to fall into place. Iíve been saying this for a couple of years now: When itís my time, itís going to be my time. Thatís my mind-set. Iím going to go out there and Iím going to grind. The world will know when Dexter McCluster is out there.Ē

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Old 04-07-2013, 01:43 PM   #226
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You're making this too complicated.

It doesn't matter if you think he's fast or quick or good at handjobs or flipping burgers or whatever.

The simple fact: he doesn't make plays. He doesn't contribute to winning football.

When he gets the ball, 9 times outta 10...no one gives a shit.
I don't play this card often...
But Andy Reid is an offensive guru. He scouted McCluster and has watched film on him. He does not agree with you. I am not overcomplicating it because you're the one trying to claim Reid doesn't know what he's doing.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:46 PM   #227
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Where is this supposed long line of evidence that McCluster when running at full speed trailed by a defender (that doesn't have a good angle from the beginning) consistently gets caught?
Well i'm not sure where you got 'long line of evidence' from or if you are just trying to put words in my mouth but I have seen him get caught from behind with my own eyes...which is something the quick/agile guys shouldn't do...

there isn't really a long line of evidence though, because more often he hesitates or gets jammed up in traffic and doesn't break into open space to begin with...which is also something the quick/agile guys should not do...

I don't remember the exact times where he was caught from behind well enough to be able to go get you tube or nfl.com video....and i really dont feel like researching it...are you saying you dont remember him getting caught from behind?

I dont really want to bash on the kid....I just hated the pick at 2A , I mean i guess there is a chance that if he stops hesitating and just goes for it he might make more plays...but he also might get broken in half....which is why he is probably hesitating
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:52 PM   #228
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I don't play this card often...
But Andy Reid is an offensive guru. He scouted McCluster and has watched film on him. He does not agree with you. I am not overcomplicating it because you're the one trying to claim Reid doesn't know what he's doing.
We don't know what Andy Reid really thinks.

We'll know in training camp and preseason.

All this mutual masturbation over bullshit April talkin' points is resulting in premature ejaculation.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:59 PM   #229
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Well i'm not sure where you got 'long line of evidence' from or if you are just trying to put words in my mouth but I have seen him get caught from behind with my own eyes...which is something the quick/agile guys shouldn't do...

there isn't really a long line of evidence though, because more often he hesitates or gets jammed up in traffic and doesn't break into open space to begin with...which is also something the quick/agile guys should not do...

I don't remember the exact times where he was caught from behind well enough to be able to go get you tube or nfl.com video....and i really dont feel like researching it...are you saying you dont remember him getting caught from behind?

I dont really want to bash on the kid....I just hated the pick at 2A , I mean i guess there is a chance that if he stops hesitating and just goes for it he might make more plays...but he also might get broken in half....which is why he is probably hesitating
I've been arguing all thread long that he's done poorly in terms of figuring out how to run correctly in space. So I agree with you there. I am pushing back against people who are making ridiculous claims that he's not fast or agile. And then claiming that because he got caught in open space, that somehow makes him not fast. Nevermind that a defender may have had a good angle 20 yards downfield or that McCluster may have stuttered, cut, or not run full speed (which to me, is more often the case).

I am not saying he'll figure things out. He has to significantly improve. But a lot of problems I see with him are mental -- even within his physical limitations, if coaching can open up more opportunities for him and if he can become a smarter runner, he could at least play a role. Weapon? No. Good contributor? Absolutely.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:00 PM   #230
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Players don't "figure out" how to run correctly in space.

They can either do it or they can't.

We knew instantly Jamaal Charles could do nasty things in space.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:07 PM   #231
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Players don't "figure out" how to run correctly in space.

They can either do it or they can't.

We knew instantly Jamaal Charles could do nasty things in space.
Confidence can absolutely change the way you attack a lane, especially if your first instinct currently is to dance around too much. For some reason, when he plays RB, he seems a lot more confident in his cuts and in getting the legs to sprint. He hasn't been bad in that role. He's been terrible as a receiver. And some of that could change if he improves his route running/hands, if coaching opens up more space opportunities, and the QB can better lead him vs. throwing the ball 2 yards behind him.

I wouldn't use Charles as a comparison to Charles. The majority of players in the league can't do what Charles does.
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Confidence can absolutely change the way you attack a lane, especially if your first instinct currently is to dance around too much. For some reason, when he plays RB, he seems a lot more confident in his cuts and in getting the legs to sprint. He hasn't been bad in that role. He's been terrible as a receiver. And some of that could change if he improves his route running/hands, if coaching opens up more space opportunities, and the QB can better lead him vs. throwing the ball 2 yards behind him.
HE'S A ****ING FOURTH-YEAR VETERAN.

HE IS NOT MAGICALLY GOING TO IMPROVE.
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A guy returns one punt, needing only to juke a 270 pound fullback - and does nothing for the next two years - and he's a weapon around these parts.

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A guy returns one punt, needing only to juke a 270 pound fullback - and does nothing for the next two years - and he's a weapon around these parts.

Holy shit, I miss the comedy this joint offers.
Nobody is calling him a weapon, nor is there anybody saying he's played well.
I think he's played like garbage and has had flashes of intriguing moments, and even more flashes of career-limiting flaws. I think most would agree with that here.

But if overreacting to one big punt is bad, so is overreacting and saying he has absolutely nothing to offer. There are some of us, myself included, who are interested in seeing how Reid plans to use him.
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HE'S A ****ING FOURTH-YEAR VETERAN.

HE IS NOT MAGICALLY GOING TO IMPROVE.
As I've been saying multiple times, if he is going to have any success, he has to become a better pure receiver and the coaching has to open up underneath opportunities. Last year, Daboll was so incompetent that defenses crowded 20 yards in the middle of the field. 2 years ago, Haley made what I thought was a lousy decision to make him primarily a RB. So yes, he can improve, but he has to improve a ton and may never do so.

So again... Reid seems to think there's a role and that McCluster can contribute in that role. And he plainly stated that that role should be going back to doing what he did in 2010, which was as a multi-role player. I just want to see how he does in that role.
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Nobody is calling him a weapon, nor is there anybody saying he's played well.
I think he's played like garbage and has had flashes of intriguing moments, and even more flashes of career-limiting flaws. I think most would agree with that here.

But if overreacting to one big punt is bad, so is overreacting and saying he has absolutely nothing to offer. There are some of us, myself included, who are interested in seeing how Reid plans to use him.
I'd like to know what you consider flashes of intriguing moments.

He's been used in every damn way imaginable over 3 years, one of which under Weis - so I'm not sure what people expect him to magically turn into under Reid.
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I'd like to know what you consider flashes of intriguing moments.

He's been used in every damn way imaginable over 3 years, one of which under Weis - so I'm not sure what people expect him to magically turn into under Reid.
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