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Old 04-05-2013, 10:46 PM  
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A Colorado Sheriff Responds To President Obama

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President Obama visited Denver on April 3, 2013 to push his excessive gun legislation. Not one sheriff in the state of Colorado was included in the event. The sheriffs of Colorado representing 62 counties were kept out of the event because their legislative needs were not useful to the president.

Obama's purposeful shunning of the state sheriffs could not silence them. Listen as Sheriff Shayne Heap from Elbert County Colorado responds to the president's comments.

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Old 04-06-2013, 06:10 PM   #61
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Just take a look at what is going on, it's closing in from all sides and the one group of people seemingly immune to it all are the one's make the rules.
The government is taking all measures to protect itself. It has demonstrated it will not protect you in good times, it certainly will not protect you when SHTF.

They should be doing everything to encourage gun ownership, not trying to eliminate it.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:12 PM   #62
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You see you keep assuming the riots will be to attack the government. No, the mobs will be going after private property.
So the populace will tear each other apart while the government sits back and watches, then will swoop in and "save" us with the condition that we play under their totalitarian rules? Is that the jist?

Maybe my problem with buying these concepts is that it just sounds otherwordly, or like a movie you could catch on AMC. Maybe I'm too trusting, or maybe I'm just too detached from what is going on before my eyes, I don't know. I just have a tough time wrapping my head around the possibility. I keep coming back to the end game. What would be left for the despots to rule? A broken country with a broken economy with every first and second world nation vying for a piece of it, with its citizens toiling in failing wastelands.

I guess that's just a long winded way for me to say that I hope you're absolutely wrong, Crappy.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:16 PM   #63
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I've got one - start hanging the mother****ers instead of coddling them.

Studies have conclusively proved that dead criminals commit no further crimes.


However, first they need to start prosecuting first. Notice the liberal/anti-gun states do the least to prosecute firearm crimes.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/was...ral-gun-crimes
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:20 PM   #64
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I guess common sense isn't allowed when dealing with the governement.

I get everything you're saying RH, but I guess my question to those that would be tyrants is what would be the end result? A shattered, broken country, just a shadow of its former glory?

They do live in another world than I do, that is absolutely for sure.
Two obvious answers to this question.

1) You are still trying to apply logic and reasoning to people that have none themselves and

2) There is a segment of the people in this country who want to see it brought down a peg or two. Crazy I know. But they genuinely feel guilty for our accomplishments, for our prosperity, for our power, for our greatness, ect. You can see it in the way they want to emulate Europe. Not because Europe is setting records for freedom and prosperity (hell, our ancestors left there, and continued to leave there to come here for a reason) but, because they think it is unfair that we should be better than them. Instead of trying to coax Europe, and all the other people of the world, to embrace the concept that we have embraced so that may join US, they would rather we sunk to their level. And you can see that in the class warfare taking place right here. Instead of people believing they need to rise up to the prosperous level of the high income earners, they have been baited into believing that they need to bring the wealthy down to their level. "Make sure they pay their fair share! Punish the rich!" We have implemented a ridiculous tax system that includes brackets so that the rich pay more. The rich will always pay more even with a flat tax because they would pay a percentage of more income. Simple math really. But that doesn't allow the government to take even more money from them to grow the dependents and, ultimately their voter/power base. So we engage in class welfare and tear down the accomplished to get even. That same mindset transfers to the nation as a whole. Therefore leaving us with people who do actually want to see this country become weaker, and a shell of its former self.



Someone get me off this damned soap box already.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:21 PM   #65
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So the populace will tear each other apart while the government sits back and watches, then will swoop in and "save" us with the condition that we play under their totalitarian rules? Is that the jist?
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:24 PM   #66
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The L.A. Riots.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:27 PM   #67
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So the populace will tear each other apart while the government sits back and watches, then will swoop in and "save" us with the condition that we play under their totalitarian rules? Is that the jist?

Maybe my problem with buying these concepts is that it just sounds otherwordly, or like a movie you could catch on AMC. Maybe I'm too trusting, or maybe I'm just too detached from what is going on before my eyes, I don't know. I just have a tough time wrapping my head around the possibility. I keep coming back to the end game. What would be left for the despots to rule? A broken country with a broken economy with every first and second world nation vying for a piece of it, with its citizens toiling in failing wastelands.

I guess that's just a long winded way for me to say that I hope you're absolutely wrong, Crappy.
OK, let's take a few isolated incidents over the past twenty years or so.

LA Riots--- the city of Los Angeles was WROL (without rule of law) for days. Over what? People starving? People's money rendered worthless? Nope.

A junkie wasted on angel dust led police on a 90 MPH chase through 25 MPH zones and they beat the shit out of him, somebody filmed it and there ya go.

Now let me ask you a question, what happens when an EBT card doesn't get it's monthly funds? Or it does, but the supermarkets have nothing left on their shelves?

These are people that went ballistic over nothing, what do you think they will do when they go hungry for a few days? I'm talking actual hunger, NOTHING TO EAT. For days. In Los Angeles, Chicago, Atlanta, NY, Miami....

All over the USA all at once.

New Orleans Katrina Hurricane-- Did the municipal, state and federal government have these peoples best interests at heart? Because thats who they turned too. Thats who they always turned too, right?

And what happened there? They put their faith in the government and the government failed them. They disarmed them. They couldn't even protect themselves if they wanted.

Tropical Storm Sandy-- This is the most recent. 5 months later you still have entire neighborhoods in NYC--- ok, let me say that again--- NYC THE EPICENTER OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION--- they still don't have power. People are still homeless. Why? Well, because once again, these people had all of their faith in the government.

The government is going to help us, they assured themselves. And then SHTF and what happened?

Well Bowser, Katrina, LA Riots, Sandy....

They are all trivial BS compared to what happens when those EBT cards are rendered worhless. And it's coming. It's a done deal.

You keep asking "why". Why would our government be so stupid? How could they be so corrupt? Because they think they won't be adversely affected by their incompetence and corruption. It's probably why they want to disarm us, because they don't want us to get our revenge, or be able to defend ourselves from the savage mobs.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:31 PM   #68
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So the populace will tear each other apart while the government sits back and watches, then will swoop in and "save" us with the condition that we play under their totalitarian rules? Is that the jist?

Maybe my problem with buying these concepts is that it just sounds otherwordly, or like a movie you could catch on AMC. Maybe I'm too trusting, or maybe I'm just too detached from what is going on before my eyes, I don't know. I just have a tough time wrapping my head around the possibility. I keep coming back to the end game. What would be left for the despots to rule? A broken country with a broken economy with every first and second world nation vying for a piece of it, with its citizens toiling in failing wastelands.

I guess that's just a long winded way for me to say that I hope you're absolutely wrong, Crappy.
Dude, seriously? The latest being the whole "Occupy" movement. Intentional or not, our Fed Gov is driving us towards civil war\revolution.

History has shown this time and time again, WTF should we be any different?
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When the nanny state is finally bankrupt & can long pay for all the free everything. & all the Mamma Jones & all the white trailer trash bitches,that shit out a new kid every 18 months named Buffy can no longer feed their family's off the system. shit will hit the fan
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When the nanny state is finally bankrupt & can long pay for all the free everything. & all the Mamma Jones & all the white trailer trash bitches,that shit out a new kid every 18 months named Buffy can no longer feed their family's off the system. shit will hit the fan
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When the nanny state is finally bankrupt & can long pay for all the free everything. & all the Mamma Jones & all the white trailer trash bitches,that shit out a new kid every 18 months named Buffy can no longer feed their family's off the system. shit will hit the fan
They say it takes 3 days without food or water until people revert back to cro-magnon stage.
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They say it takes 3 days without food or water until people revert back to cro-magnon stage.
It won't take that long. These government tit suckers will start going ape shit the moment they find out the boob has gone dry. It may not hit its peak fever for about three days but, there will be a pretty strong and fast build up to it.
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