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Old 04-03-2013, 11:35 AM  
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U.S. sees highest poverty spike since the 1960s...

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Old 04-03-2013, 01:28 PM   #16
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Old 04-03-2013, 01:28 PM   #17
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I know lawyers who make over 300K a year who smoked weed.

Almost everyone in America is on some kind of drug.
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Old 04-03-2013, 01:32 PM   #18
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I know lawyers who make over 300K a year who smoked weed.
Wow man, that's cool.
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Old 04-03-2013, 01:34 PM   #19
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I know lawyers who make over 300K a year who smoked weed.

Almost everyone in America is on some kind of drug.
I know a basketball player who's leg exploded when he jumped.

Almost everyone in America has been injured once.
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:04 PM   #20
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:07 PM   #21
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I know a basketball player who's leg exploded when he jumped.

Almost everyone in America has been injured once.
Apples and oranges.

America consumes more drugs than the rest of the world... both illegal and prescription.

If you think only poor people are on drugs, or that all poor people are on drugs, you live in a bubble.
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:07 PM   #22
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I wonder what percentage of children live in poverty when they come from a family with married parents who aren't on drugs.
I wonder what percentage of parents live in poverty when they didn't have the children out of wedlock.
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:14 PM   #23
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:26 PM   #24
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If you think only poor people are on drugs, or that all poor people are on drugs, you live in a bubble.
It's easier to dehumanize poor people if you generally assign flaws. Who cares, it's their own fault they are poor.

Meanwhile, in reality:
No Savings Are Found From Welfare Drug Tests
By LIZETTE ALVAREZ
Published: April 17, 2012

MIAMI — Ushered in amid promises that it would save taxpayers money and deter drug users, a Florida law requiring drug tests for people who seek welfare benefits resulted in no direct savings, snared few drug users and had no effect on the number of applications, according to recently released state data.

“Many states are considering following Florida’s example, and the new data from the state shows they shouldn’t,” said Derek Newton, communications director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida, which sued the state last year to stop the testing and recently obtained the documents. “Not only is it unconstitutional and an invasion of privacy, but it doesn’t save money, as was proposed.”

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From July through October in Florida — the four months when testing took place before Judge Scriven’s order — 2.6 percent of the state’s cash assistance applicants failed the drug test, or 108 of 4,086, according to the figures from the state obtained by the group. The most common reason was marijuana use. An additional 40 people canceled the tests without taking them.

Because the Florida law requires that applicants who pass the test be reimbursed for the cost, an average of $30, the cost to the state was $118,140. This is more than would have been paid out in benefits to the people who failed the test, Mr. Newton said.

As a result, the testing cost the government an extra $45,780, he said.


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Apples and oranges.

America consumes more drugs than the rest of the world... both illegal and prescription.

If you think only poor people are on drugs, or that all poor people are on drugs, you live in a bubble.
How 'bout if it's not quite as absolute as you'd like to phrase it? How 'bout if I think that drugs could be a contributing factor? How 'bout if I just think that someone is more likely to be poor if they have a drug problem than they would be if they didn't have a drug problem? How 'bout if I think that there are more people with drug problems today than there were in the sixties? Would that indicate that I have a bubble problem?
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:32 PM   #26
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Exactly! A good book to read about the failures of those programs is Losing Ground which was written by a former prog.
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:33 PM   #27
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I know lawyers who make over 300K a year who smoked weed.

Almost everyone in America is on some kind of drug.
Executives who use coke. Models who use heroin. Rockstars who use...everything!
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