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Old 04-02-2013, 09:36 AM  
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Irish incest couple plan to marry
They only found out after DNA test
By PATRICK COOPER,IrishCentral.com Staff Writer
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An Irish couple, who recently found out they were siblings, will be getting married this month.


An Irish incest couple, who never knew they shared the same father when they met, plan to get married later this month.

They already have a child together after meeting in a nightclub and falling in love.

The man known only as James, never knew his real biological father and says he was prevented from finding out by authorities.

"The way I see it, if the system can know about things and hide the facts, then I can do the same — they turned a blind eye and so can we," the man, told the Irish Mail.

It is forbidden in Irish law for siblings to marry each other.

"People can criticize and say it is not right, but they should say the same about what was done to me in the family law courts."James said.



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Old 04-05-2013, 11:15 AM   #121
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What is the primary purpose of California bill SB1172?

You barely read the link but did you read the bill?
Yes I read the bill, which is why I found it to be pretty pointless, which is also how I found all the inconsistencies with your link.

The primary purpose is to protect people from having mental health professionals engage in sexual orientation change efforts. I think the bill is stupid because mental health professionals are already not supposed to be doing those things. If they do, they can already lose their license. It seems the only thing this bill would do is make it more known to clients that they can take action against their counselors.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:17 AM   #122
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The primary purpose is to protect people from having mental health professionals engage in sexual orientation change efforts.
How convenient. No, the primary purpose is to protect MINORS from having mental health professionals engage in sexual orientation change efforts.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:23 AM   #123
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If a 13 year old boy molests a 5 year old boy, is that pedophilia?
Not pedophilia but I can guarantee you if the behavior occurred more than once after proper action was taken that they would be diagnosed with sexual disorder not otherwise specified. Regardless, no one would argue that is not an illness and that the behavior isn't something requiring intervention.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:26 AM   #124
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Not pedophilia but I can guarantee you if the behavior occurred more than once after proper action was taken that they would be diagnosed with sexual disorder not otherwise specified. Regardless, no one would argue that is not an illness and that the behavior isn't something requiring intervention.
When does it stop becoming an illness? 13 and 6, 13-7, 13-8...

Explain this to me. Because you seem to really be up on all this.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:30 AM   #125
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How convenient. No, the primary purpose is to protect MINORS from having mental health professionals engage in sexual orientation change efforts.
That certainly makes more sense as to why they are trying to pass this bill. I still think it is pretty pointless. None of this changes that pedophiles aren't protected. I don't much care about the bill because all it does is put the onus on the parents and further prevents mental health professionals from free reign over their underage clients. The link's assertion is still ridiculous. The bill clearly says gay, lesbian, and bisexual and mentions those because they are not a disorder or illness. Pedophilia isn't protected.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:31 AM   #126
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are we talking widespread, or isolated incidents? pedophilia and incest are both pretty damned rare. I've seen estimates that 10% of the population are gay/lesbian (not sure I believe those numbers, just going off what I've read).
It's actually more like 3%. Kinsey's research is the source of the 10% figure.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:36 AM   #127
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That certainly makes more sense as to why they are trying to pass this bill. I still think it is pretty pointless. None of this changes that pedophiles aren't protected. I don't much care about the bill because all it does is put the onus on the parents and further prevents mental health professionals from free reign over their underage clients. The link's assertion is still ridiculous. The bill clearly says gay, lesbian, and bisexual and mentions those because they are not a disorder or illness. Pedophilia isn't protected.
The Bill prevents a parent from getting psychiatric help for a sexually confused or abused child.

And the same people behind this ie the LGBT mafia are also on the offensive to get the APA to declare Pedophilia is not a mental disorder.

If you discovered your 13 year old son enjoyed wearing womens clothing and make-up, and took him to a psychiatrist that doctor coul be sued for trying to correct this abnormal behavior.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:40 AM   #128
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When does it stop becoming an illness? 13 and 6, 13-7, 13-8...

Explain this to me. Because you seem to really be up on all this.
Technically, as I am sure you have seen an official diagnosis of pedophilia requires the person to be at least 16 and the victim to be 11 or under. The short version, for each case under those criteria, would take into account sexual maturity of both individuals as well as the age difference to determine whether or not their is illness or intervention required.

The whole point is that pedophilia is not protected by this bill which was the original assertion I was debunking. I have no interest in debating the proper criteria for pedophilia or what should happen in a case by case example. That may be interesting, but that would still have nothing to do with that link.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:42 AM   #129
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It's actually more like 3%. Kinsey's research is the source of the 10% figure.
Homophobe.

Actually, I agree. So I guess we're both homophobes.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:49 AM   #130
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The Bill prevents a parent from getting psychiatric help for a sexually confused or abused child.

And the same people behind this ie the LGBT mafia are also on the offensive to get the APA to declare Pedophilia is not a mental disorder.

If you discovered your 13 year old son enjoyed wearing womens clothing and make-up, and took him to a psychiatrist that doctor coul be sued for trying to correct this abnormal behavior.
It prevents sexual orientation change efforts but it doesn't prevent help for a "sexually confused or abused child." (There can be no way you believe this would prevent help for an abused child).

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(2) “Sexual orientation change efforts” does not include psychotherapies that: (A) provide acceptance, support, and understanding of clients or the facilitation of clients’ coping, social support, and identity exploration and development, including sexual orientation-neutral interventions to prevent or address unlawful conduct or unsafe sexual practices; and (B) do not seek to change sexual orientation.
And the last sentence, how so? Parents still have certain controls over their kids and are able to sign release forms for interventions they want done. This bill doesn't seem to have any wording that would prohibit that. I see nothing that says parents are expressly not permitted to allow interventions if they choose those paths.

Again, I don't much care for this bill and really have no interest in it other than pointing out that it doesn't protect pedophiles. I was supposed to leave work at 11:30.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:51 AM   #131
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Technically, as I am sure you have seen an official diagnosis of pedophilia requires the person to be at least 16 and the victim to be 11 or under. The short version, for each case under those criteria, would take into account sexual maturity of both individuals as well as the age difference to determine whether or not their is illness or intervention required.

The whole point is that pedophilia is not protected by this bill which was the original assertion I was debunking. I have no interest in debating the proper criteria for pedophilia or what should happen in a case by case example. That may be interesting, but that would still have nothing to do with that link.
If a 15 year old boy sexually assaults a 14 year old boy (or younger) this is not "officially" pedophilia.

Got that.

Then what is it?

Is it "normal" or "abnormal"?

Seriously, I'm not being obtuse. If you're the parent, do you think this kid needs help? Do you think this kid has the potential of doing this to teenage boys when he's older?

You say SB 1172 has nothing to do with protecting pedophiles but as we can see a mere 12 months is the difference in the diagnosis.
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:11 PM   #132
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If a 15 year old boy sexually assaults a 14 year old boy (or younger) this is not "officially" pedophilia.

Got that.

Then what is it?

Is it "normal" or "abnormal"?

Seriously, I'm not being obtuse. If you're the parent, do you think this kid needs help? Do you think this kid has the potential of doing this to teenage boys when he's older?

You say SB 1172 has nothing to do with protecting pedophiles but as we can see a mere 12 months is the difference in the diagnosis.
You answered your own question. Do you really not know if sexual assault is normal or abnormal?
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Old 04-05-2013, 12:19 PM   #133
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If a 15 year old boy sexually assaults a 14 year old boy (or younger) this is not "officially" pedophilia.

Got that.

Then what is it?

Is it "normal" or "abnormal"?

Seriously, I'm not being obtuse. If you're the parent, do you think this kid needs help? Do you think this kid has the potential of doing this to teenage boys when he's older?

You say SB 1172 has nothing to do with protecting pedophiles but as we can see a mere 12 months is the difference in the diagnosis.
The spirit of your link was to entice outrage over the term pedophile. And when people think pedophile they think 40 year old attacking children. The bill doesn't protect that. End of story.

In your example the kid needs help because he is obviously confused (assuming it was assault and the other kid didn't consent). It is abnormal behavior because the cultural norm is to not be attracted to the same sex. He could just be a homosexual but doesn't yet realize what this means, much less the boundaries of expressing his behavior.

Each case should be handled uniquely since there are bound to be different factors involved. And this law still wouldn't protect this kid from getting help. The therapy would be more about exploring his feelings towards the same sex.
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Pedophilia: a 16 year old gives a handjob to a 15 year old
Not Pedophilia: a 15 year old sodomizes a 3 year old.
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The Bill prevents a parent from getting psychiatric help for a sexually confused or abused child.

And the same people behind this ie the LGBT mafia are also on the offensive to get the APA to declare Pedophilia is not a mental disorder.


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