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Old 04-02-2013, 08:36 AM  
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Incest Marriage?

Irish incest couple plan to marry
They only found out after DNA test
By PATRICK COOPER,IrishCentral.com Staff Writer
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An Irish couple, who recently found out they were siblings, will be getting married this month.


An Irish incest couple, who never knew they shared the same father when they met, plan to get married later this month.

They already have a child together after meeting in a nightclub and falling in love.

The man known only as James, never knew his real biological father and says he was prevented from finding out by authorities.

"The way I see it, if the system can know about things and hide the facts, then I can do the same they turned a blind eye and so can we," the man, told the Irish Mail.

It is forbidden in Irish law for siblings to marry each other.

"People can criticize and say it is not right, but they should say the same about what was done to me in the family law courts."James said.



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Old 04-02-2013, 10:44 AM   #31
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The arguments against bigamy and polygamy are stronger than those against same-sex marriage (which are laughably weak), but not as strong as against incest/pedophilia which are pretty much iron-clad.

Basically, for banning the legal recognition of polygamy the arguments would probably rely on evidence from fundamental LDS cults and how the women basically become meek, brainwashed sex slaves.
I think the argument against incest/pedophilia specifically is pretty strong, but I don't think an argument against sibling or parent/child or first cousin marriage is that strong given that sexual relations and offspring don't have to be a central focus of a partnership.
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Old 04-02-2013, 10:45 AM   #32
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Old 04-02-2013, 10:46 AM   #33
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Old 04-02-2013, 10:50 AM   #34
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from a biological and evolutionary standpoint, there's a reason there's a taboo against incest--families tend to segregate and be heterozygous for the same lethal mutations (aka, it would be embryonically lethal OR highly deleterious if you had two copies). when close family members reproduce, the odds of those two alleles coming together in the offspring are VERY high, and lead to reduced fitness in the offspring. This is selected against and manifests in the societal pressure against having a child with close family.

Regardless of whether they're consenting or not, when incest occurs and offspring happen, it's BAD.

When two gay or lesbians get together, NO OFFSPRING occur WITHOUT A SURROGATE. Being gay or lesbian has NO REDUCED FITNESS biologically speaking.

pedophilia--yeah, we'll not go there. it's a societal taboo for different reasons than incest. However, (and DON'T take this as me defending pedophilia--I think it's very sickening) it wasn't always a societal taboo. see also: ancient greece and several other ancient cultures.

as for man/woman pedophilia, recall that we haven't always lived as long as we do now--we aren't THAT far removed from women getting married in their pre-teens. is it right? as one that was raised in THIS society with THESE social mores, I'm against it. however, being that we're all the products of the society in which we grow up, somebody from 500 years or so ago would have a COMPLETELY different vantage point.
I got it! What if there were two gay brothers who wanted to marry? what about THAT eh?
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Old 04-02-2013, 10:53 AM   #35
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I would still be cleaning out my mouth and taking hourly showers knowing it was my sister.
I really don't think so. She would just be some chick you never met until a year or two ago and fell in love with.

The reason why your sister would be different, is because you grew up together under the same roof with the same parents, fought, annoyed one another, perhaps got jealous when the other received attention and praise, sort of settled into a truce in middle school, all while sibling love with boundaries exist.

If this guy grew up with her, he'd probably not want to have anything to do with her outside of Thanksgiving get-togethers.
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Old 04-02-2013, 10:53 AM   #36
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Old 04-02-2013, 10:54 AM   #37
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I really don't think so. She would just be some chick you never met until a year or two ago and fell in love with.

The reason why your sister would be different, is because you grew up together under the same roof with the same parents, fought, annoyed one another, perhaps got jealous when the other received attention and praise, sort of settled into a truce in middle school, all while sibling love with boundaries exist.

If this guy grew up with her, he'd probably not want to have anything to do with her outside of Thanksgiving get-togethers.
It's a good point but still....
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I got it! What if there were two gay brothers who wanted to marry? what about THAT eh?


tell you what... I won't give a **** about it. from a biological standpoint, it wouldn't matter. they would NEVER be able to have disfigured offspring together. from a moral/social standpoint: while it would be abhorrent and gross to me, I wouldn't really care one way or another. it would be such a rare event that it's not even worth legislating THAT particular event, and as long as they left me the **** alone, I'd be ok with it.
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tell you what... I won't give a **** about it. from a biological standpoint, it wouldn't matter. they would NEVER be able to have disfigured offspring together. from a moral/social standpoint: while it would be abhorrent and gross to me, I wouldn't really care one way or another. it would be such a rare event that it's not even worth legislating THAT particular event, and as long as they left me the **** alone, I'd be ok with it.
SO...Gay Incest is just alright-y then!!!
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SO...Gay Incest is just alright-y then!!!
I guess. yay, now you and your brother can go consummate the damned thing!



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