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Old 04-01-2013, 10:24 PM  
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Late night bullshit: A "smart guy's" sport.

I had a big conversation with a baseball fan about smart guy sports.

There was really a whole table of us. I am a believer that football is a smart guy's sport. There are 22 different positions, and most of them have different variations and techniques.

There was a baseball guy at the table, and another dude argued soccer, but didn't really have a good argument for it. Someone else mentioned golf, but I think that's pretty damn simple, too.

What's the smart guy sport, to you?

I say football. Others say baseball. Thoughts?
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:04 PM   #31
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Where the hell is SNR from?

I'll chessbox him. I've been wanting to knock his block off for several weeks now.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:09 PM   #32
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How about this:

Baseball is harder to learn how to play.

Football is harder to learn how to deeply understand.
I think even that's debatable. There are layers and layers of strategy that go into baseball. Most people don't think about it while they're sitting there scarfing down nachos. Yeah you can try to boil it down to the pitcher and batter matchup, which is an entire essay by itself... matchups, pitch counts, pitch arsenal, batter strengths, available relief pitchers/pinch hitters... and on and on. Even then, managers will line the defenders up across the field based on hit charts of each player. And from there, those adjustments may change depending on the count, who is on base, what base they are on, the game score and situation, the pitcher on the mound, the weather, field dimensions.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:09 PM   #33
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I think I do remember that - I'm not sure i visited it, SNR. I think I only heard it discussed. Was this the poster he had a crush on, or am I totally off...?
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* During last year's meltdown against the Colts in the post season, it looked like the injuries slider was turned up to 100% and they were carting bodies off the field like they were filming B-roll for "The Strain".

* Brodie Croyle (!) is the only quarterback drafted by the team to start a game for them since the mid-80's...and he barely beat out Damon Huard in the process. Croyle then promptly lost all six of his starts. He couldn't even beat out Tyler Thigpen once he returned from injury.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:10 PM   #34
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Where the hell is SNR from?

I'll chessbox him. I've been wanting to knock his block off for several weeks now.
Wisconsin.

I've been in one fight my entire life, but you could say that I "won" it. At least I think so.

Of course, that was in 5th grade, and a few things have changed. But whatever. My chess skills will win the day.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:12 PM   #35
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I think I do remember that - I'm not sure i visited it, SNR. I think I only heard it discussed. Was this the poster he had a crush on, or am I totally off...?
I too am fuzzy on it, but I know she was "commatard" who used multiple commas as elipses (,,, instead of ...)

I also know that he ****ing loathed her. Was pretty funny to watch him aggressively ask questions at her.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:13 PM   #36
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How about this:

Baseball is harder to learn how to play.

Football is harder to learn how to deeply understand.
I'd still say golf is harder than both of those sports in each of those aspects.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:15 PM   #37
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He's basically Simon Cowell, let's face it.
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* The Chiefs have more player-committed murder-suicides than playoff victories in the past two decades.

* During last year's meltdown against the Colts in the post season, it looked like the injuries slider was turned up to 100% and they were carting bodies off the field like they were filming B-roll for "The Strain".

* Brodie Croyle (!) is the only quarterback drafted by the team to start a game for them since the mid-80's...and he barely beat out Damon Huard in the process. Croyle then promptly lost all six of his starts. He couldn't even beat out Tyler Thigpen once he returned from injury.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:17 PM   #38
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I think we can say with certainty that the smartest man to invent a sport was the man who came up with mud/KY wrestling.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:20 PM   #39
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I tend to lean basketball - with that said; there are chock full of variables and with most all sports you could fairly easily 'make the case.' I'd have to say there's not one true 'clear cut' leader, here.

That's my final opinion on it...
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* During last year's meltdown against the Colts in the post season, it looked like the injuries slider was turned up to 100% and they were carting bodies off the field like they were filming B-roll for "The Strain".

* Brodie Croyle (!) is the only quarterback drafted by the team to start a game for them since the mid-80's...and he barely beat out Damon Huard in the process. Croyle then promptly lost all six of his starts. He couldn't even beat out Tyler Thigpen once he returned from injury.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:23 PM   #40
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I grew up playing Football, Baseball, Soccer, Basketball, and Golf.

Without a doubt, Golf is the most intellectual of them all.

Before you even touch on the technical knowledge of the game, how to swing, aim, hit a certain shot, etc. You get into this mental boxing match with yourself, in a constant bout of when to "go for it" when to play it safe, and the self pressure you put on yourself when you're playing well, and when you aren't playing well.

That being said, most, if not all of you will disagree with me on Golf because it is one of the most accessible sports that "anyone" can play, and ignore the fact that in order to equally argue the point for any sport, the sport must be played within the confines of competition, and in this case, a golf tournament to compare to a single game of baseball, basketball, or football.

If I had to rank them, it would go like this.

Golf
Football
Soccer
Basketball
Baseball

With a fairly large gap between tournament Golf, and any level of competition in Football.

IMO, though ,its impossible to compare team sports to individual sports.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:25 PM   #41
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Why do people argue that soccer is complex?

I've played soccer my whole life. Always came really simple to me.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:27 PM   #42
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Why do people argue that soccer is complex?

I've played soccer my whole life. Always came really simple to me.
Came simple to me too, because I'm smart and used my head to outmaneuver players who were faster than me.

IMO Soccer takes a larger degree of restraint and refinement than any team sport, and takes quite a bit of training and athleticism too.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:32 PM   #43
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How about this:

Baseball is harder to learn how to play.

Football is harder to learn how to deeply understand.
I pretty much agree:

I think if you use the terms tactics & strategy & techniques, there almost has to be more tactics and strategy in football.

The techniques involved in baseball might be a little harder / require to learn, so I do agree.. mostly...but blocking and tackling require learning proper technique also.

Strategy-wise (big picture game planning) I think it could be close also....run game / solid defense/ ball control being an example of a strategy a team might employ in football..........'small ball' being thre eqivolent maybe in base ball...bunting, stealing, 1 run....and good pitching/D.
There are probably more types of strategies in football, so yah....football wins by a little there too.

Tactics it isnt even close.......football BLOWS away baseball...and most other sports by having an almost infinite number of offensive and defensive tactics. chess, bridge & go all have this, but are not sports.......

do a google on 'chess tactics quotes' and you will see that the vast majority of chess masters agree that tactics is the number one element of chess...the heart, soul....

it is the same with football IMO

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Old 04-01-2013, 11:33 PM   #44
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Why do people argue that soccer is complex?

I've played soccer my whole life. Always came really simple to me.

Silock would pick your pocket and then point and laugh and then he'd flex as he danced on down the field and nutmegged your goalie.
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* The Chiefs have more player-committed murder-suicides than playoff victories in the past two decades.

* During last year's meltdown against the Colts in the post season, it looked like the injuries slider was turned up to 100% and they were carting bodies off the field like they were filming B-roll for "The Strain".

* Brodie Croyle (!) is the only quarterback drafted by the team to start a game for them since the mid-80's...and he barely beat out Damon Huard in the process. Croyle then promptly lost all six of his starts. He couldn't even beat out Tyler Thigpen once he returned from injury.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:35 PM   #45
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I played defense my entire life in soccer, and when I watch cornerbacks play wide receivers...

The entire secondary battle, between receivers and defensive backs? That's all soccer spacing. The assignments, the zones... that's all soccer, in terms of spacing and coverage strategies and players trying to get open. That's 100% soccer.

Only difference is the ball.
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