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Old 03-30-2013, 10:49 PM  
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Georgia looking to eliminate income tax (LA and SC too)



http://oconee.patch.com/announcement...on-act-of-2014

ATLANTA – State Representative Tom Kirby (R-Loganville) announced at a press conference Wednesday, March 27, that he will introduce the Georgia Fair Taxation Act of 2014 on Thursday, March 28, 2013.

This legislation would move Georgia to a “fair taxation” system by eliminating the state income tax completely.

“By removing the income tax, we can increase the number of tax payers and reduce the amount everyone pays,” said Rep. Kirby. “The public is ready for serious tax reform and bold solutions to solve our economic problems.”

The Georgia Fair Taxation Act, if approved by the General Assembly, would prohibit the state of Georgia from collecting income taxes or requiring income tax returns.

The bill would also raise the consumption tax in the state.
Rep. Kirby will bring together leading economists over the next nine months to decide the proper tax rates needed to ensure the bill has a neutral effect on the state’s revenue.

They will also decide which goods and services should be included in the bill’s consumption tax, and whether any exemptions should be made.

Additionally, Rep. Kirby and the economists will work to project the positive impacts this legislation could have on economic development in Georgia.

“This legislation would move Georgia from an income tax to a consumption based tax, so that tourists and visitors would share in the tax burden. By shifting this responsibility, the state will be able to receive tax dollars from everyone who enjoys government services, and in turn help Georgia attract new business,” added Rep. Kirby.

When the Georgia Fair Taxation Act of 2014 has been enacted, Georgia will join at least eight states with no income tax, including Florida, Louisiana, Texas, and Tennessee.

In addition, states like South Carolina are considering their own fair taxation bill to eliminate the income tax in their state.
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Old 04-01-2013, 05:37 AM   #16
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Not punishing someone for their hard work is an ideology that you disagree with?
Sorry I don't see income tax as punishment I'm a Liberal but I believe there is contract between the government and its citizen. The government provides services for its citizen and citizen pay tax. Maybe you believe we should abolish
government or citizen shouldn't pay tax? The american way. Let somebody else pay but me.
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:34 AM   #17
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Sorry I don't see income tax as punishment I'm a Liberal but I believe there is contract between the government and its citizen. The government provides services for its citizen and citizen pay tax. Maybe you believe we should abolish
government or citizen shouldn't pay tax? The american way. Let somebody else pay but me.
I have no problem with taxation in principle. I have a serious problem with the income tax. It took an amendment to the Constitution to make it legal which was a huge mistake. When you take money from people who have earned it BEFORE they even lay hands on it, you are in essence punishing them for the work they have done. It is morally wrong.

You should tax people for spending money, not earning it.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:17 AM   #18
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States with no income tax are doing better than the one's with it. Perhaps you noticed they'd need it to be revenue neutral as well (in the article)....
Correlation /= causation
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:42 AM   #19
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The move to eliminate income tax in Kansas is doing wonders here
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:43 PM   #20
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I have no problem with taxation in principle. I have a serious problem with the income tax. It took an amendment to the Constitution to make it legal which was a huge mistake. When you take money from people who have earned it BEFORE they even lay hands on it, you are in essence punishing them for the work they have done. It is morally wrong.

You should tax people for spending money, not earning it.
Don't you punish people who earn less and reward people who earn more?
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:08 PM   #21
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Don't you punish people who earn less and reward people who earn more?
A) I don't see how.

B) I don't agree with intentionally forcing some to pay more. One rate for everyone. This class warfare HAS to come to an end. Instead of tryng to stick it to the successful, how about trying to join their ranks?
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:10 PM   #22
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Correlation /= causation
Sometimes causation is the reason for correlation. But keep telling yourself that democrat policies aren't killing the economic situations of our bluest states and cities.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:11 PM   #23
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The move to eliminate income tax in Kansas is doing wonders here
How is it doing anything there since it hasn't happened yet?
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:25 PM   #24
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:25 PM   #25
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How is it doing anything there since it hasn't happened yet?

there isn't a huge tax levied on wheat and sunflowers, anyway...
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:18 PM   #26
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The american way. Let somebody else pay but me.
This is the progressive tax system in a nutshell.

I live in Georgia, and plan to move to Florida one day. Why? Because I think it's crazy that Georgia charges me 6% of my income to live here. If we move to this proposed system, I'll probably stay.

I'd fully support a system that was either consumption based, or flat. There's no reason 50% of our country pays nothing, and they can vote people into power who will hike up taxes for someone else to pay for shit.

With consumption (or a flat tax), like the ex given in Tennessee earlier, people are hesitant to raise taxes because it raises theirs as well.
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:31 PM   #27
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Correlation /= causation
...when there's other factors that could be involved. You need to add that to complete that claim.

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Examples of illogically inferring causation from correlation...

In conclusion, correlation is an extremely valuable type of scientific evidence in fields such as medicine, psychology, and sociology. But first correlations must be confirmed as real, and then every possible causational relationship must be systematically explored. ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correla...mply_causation
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:46 PM   #28
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:50 PM   #29
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Florida has no income tax, either.
Here in GA we border FL and TN, both have no income tax, and SC is looking into eliminating it as well. If every state we border but Alabama (who the **** wants to live there) has no tax, GA is gonna have to do something....
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:26 AM   #30
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Here in GA we border FL and TN, both have no income tax, and SC is looking into eliminating it as well. If every state we border but Alabama (who the **** wants to live there) has no tax, GA is gonna have to do something....
I hope it spreads like wildfire and the Feds are forced to do something as well. There is no reason the tax code needs be such a cluster ****.
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