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Old 03-30-2013, 05:08 AM  
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North Korea Declares War on the US

Full war declaration statement from DPRK (via KCNA):

The moves of the U.S. imperialists to violate the sovereignty of the DPRK and encroach upon its supreme interests have entered an extremely grave phase. Under this situation, the dear respected Marshal Kim Jong Un, brilliant commander of Mt. Paektu, convened an urgent operation meeting on the performance of duty of the Strategic Rocket Force of the Korean People's Army for firepower strike and finally examined and ratified a plan for firepower strike.

The important decision made by him is the declaration of a do-or-die battle to provide an epochal occasion for putting an end to the history of the long-standing showdown with the U.S. and opening a new era. It is also a last warning of justice served to the U.S., south Korean group and other anti-reunification hostile forces. The decision reflects the strong will of the army and people of the DPRK to annihilate the enemies.

Now the heroic service personnel and all other people of the DPRK are full of surging anger at the U.S. imperialists' reckless war provocation moves, and the strong will to turn out as one in the death-defying battle with the enemies and achieve a final victory of the great war for national reunification true to the important decision made by Kim Jong Un.

The Supreme Command of the KPA in its previous statement solemnly declared at home and abroad the will of the army and people of the DPRK to take decisive military counteraction to defend the sovereignty of the country and the dignity of its supreme leadership as regards the war moves of the U.S. and south Korean puppets that have reached the most extreme phase.

Not content with letting B-52 make sorties into the sky over south Korea in succession despite the repeated warnings of the DPRK, the U.S. made B-2A stealth strategic bomber and other ultra-modern strategic strike means fly from the U.S. mainland to south Korea to stage a bombing drill targeting the DPRK. This is an unpardonable and heinous provocation and an open challenge.

By taking advantage of the U.S. reckless campaign for a nuclear war against the DPRK, the south Korean puppets vociferated about "preemptive attack" and "strong counteraction" and even "strike at the commanding forces", openly revealing the attempt to destroy monuments symbolic of the dignity of the DPRK's supreme leadership.

This clearly shows that the U.S. brigandish ambition for aggression and the puppets' attempt to invade the DPRK have gone beyond the limit and their threats have entered the reckless phase of an actual war from the phase of threat and blackmail.

The prevailing grim situation more clearly proves that the Supreme Command of the KPA was just when it made the judgment and decision to decisively settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists and south Korean puppets by dint of the arms of Songun, because time when words could work has passed.

Now they are openly claiming that the B-2A stealth strategic bombers' drill of dropping nuclear bombs was "not to irritate the north" but "the defensive one". The U.S. also says the drill is "to defend the interests of its ally". However, it is nothing but a lame pretext to cover up its aggressive nature, evade the denunciation at home and abroad and escape from the DPRK's retaliatory blows.

The era when the U.S. resorted to the policy of strength by brandishing nuclear weapons has gone.

It is the resolute answer of the DPRK and its steadfast stand to counter the nuclear blackmail of the U.S. imperialists with merciless nuclear attack and their war of aggression with just all-out war.

They should clearly know that in the era of Marshal Kim Jong Un, the greatest-ever commander, all things are different from what they used to be in the past.

The hostile forces will clearly realize the iron will, matchless grit and extraordinary mettle of the brilliant commander of Mt. Paektu that the earth cannot exist without Songun Korea.

Time has come to stage a do-or-die final battle.

The government, political parties and organizations of the DPRK solemnly declare as follows reflecting the final decision made by Kim Jong Un at the operation meeting of the KPA Supreme Command and the unanimous will of all service personnel and people of the DPRK who are waiting for a final order from him.

1.From this moment, the north-south relations will be put at the state of war and all the issues arousing between the north and the south will be dealt with according to the wartime regulations.

The state of neither peace nor war has ended on the Korean Peninsula.

Now that the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK have entered into an actual military action, the inter-Korean relations have naturally entered the state of war. Accordingly, the DPRK will immediately punish any slightest provocation hurting its dignity and sovereignty with resolute and merciless physical actions without any prior notice.

2. If the U.S. and the south Korean puppet group perpetrate a military provocation for igniting a war against the DPRK in any area including the five islands in the West Sea of Korea or in the area along the Military Demarcation Line, it will not be limited to a local war, but develop into an all-out war, a nuclear war.

It is self-evident that any military conflict on the Korean Peninsula is bound to lead to an all-out war, a nuclear war now that even U.S. nuclear strategic bombers in its military bases in the Pacific including Hawaii and Guam and in its mainland are flying into the sky above south Korea to participate in the madcap DPRK-targeted nuclear war moves.

The first strike of the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK will blow up the U.S. bases for aggression in its mainland and in the Pacific operational theatres including Hawaii and Guam and reduce not only its military bases in south Korea but the puppets' ruling institutions including Chongwadae and puppet army's bases to ashes at once, to say nothing of the aggressors and the provokers.

3. The DPRK will never miss the golden chance to win a final victory in a great war for national reunification.

This war will not be a three day-war but it will be a blitz war through which the KPA will occupy all areas of south Korea including Jeju Island at one strike, not giving the U.S. and the puppet warmongers time to come to their senses, and a three-dimensional war to be fought in the air, land and seas and on the front line and in the rear.

This sacred war of justice will be a nation-wide, all-people resistance involving all Koreans in the north and the south and overseas in which the traitors to the nation including heinous confrontation maniacs, warmongers and human scum will be mercilessly swept away.

No force on earth can break the will of the service personnel and people of the DPRK all out in the just great war for national reunification and of all other Koreans and overpower their might.

Holding in high esteem the peerlessly great men of Mt. Paektu, the Korean people will give vent to the pent-up grudge and realize their cherished desire and thus bring a bright day of national reunification and build the best power on this land without fail.

http://live.reuters.com/Event/North_Korea/70001409
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:40 PM   #76
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I don't like cornbread so from my pov, I saved you from yourself.
I've never understood the cornbread hype.


Banana bread is definitely worthy however.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:48 PM   #77
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Banana bread is definitely worthy however.
Banana Bread doesn't go well with spareribs though. And my slaw.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:55 PM   #79
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Look at this editorial by Paul Gottfried.
It seems that while at the conference David [Brooks] mingled with two of his favorite thinkers, Bill Kristol and John Podhoretz. Like our New York Times-columnist [Brooks], these certified conservatives were frustrated at how the GOP is still obstinately resisting the now widespread acceptance of big government, and they joined David in calling for a GOP that would reach out to the Northeast and to minorities and provide them with social programs and more safety nets. The country needs new conservative opponents "who don’t share the absolute anti-government story of the current GOP."

Young Pod was especially vexed at the "mentality" that "makes it hard for Republicans to analyze social and economic problems that don’t flow directly from big government." Thus they ignore what others see, that "wages no longer keep pace with productivity gains." Bill Kristol was irritated that the Republicans "opposed the Dodd-Frank financial regulation law but never offered an alternative. The party opposed Obamacare but never offered a replacement." Podhoretz, Jr. then chimed in by reminding David that "as soon as Republicans start talking about what kind of regulations and programs that government should promote, they get accused by colleagues of being Big Government conservatives."...

Something else that captured my attention in David’s commentary is the assumption that the GOP should favor a more controlling central government in order to regain their eroded national base. But why should a voter who believes in strict constitutional government support a party that is making itself indistinguishable from the left wing of the Democratic Party? The notion that Brooks and his buds put forth, that their new party will be a coalition that will leave some room for the Neanderthals, isn’t going to cut it. In Pennsylvania, the GOP vote was down in 2012 throughout the conservative regions of the state because the voters loathed Romney as a Democratic look-alike. Why would those who stayed at home last year come out to vote for a Republican version of Obama, albeit one who is presumably better disposed toward the present ruling coalition in Israel?

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Old 03-30-2013, 06:17 PM   #80
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Because he didn't say that when it first passed. He loved it. He's a snake, who will say such things to keep the conservatives in his camp. Besides he's a "repeal and replace" guy. It's nothing but his Straussian window dressing when you look at other things he's done like in the 90's. He has slammed the idea of less govt along with Podhoretz. Krauthammer used to write Mondale's speeches.
Sorry, you're wrong. He's never supported Obamacare.
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Look at this editorial by Paul Gottfried.
It seems that while at the conference David [Brooks] mingled with two of his favorite thinkers, Bill Kristol and John Podhoretz. Like our New York Times-columnist [Brooks], these certified conservatives were frustrated at how the GOP is still obstinately resisting the now widespread acceptance of big government, and they joined David in calling for a GOP that would reach out to the Northeast and to minorities and provide them with social programs and more safety nets. The country needs new conservative opponents "who don’t share the absolute anti-government story of the current GOP."

Young Pod was especially vexed at the "mentality" that "makes it hard for Republicans to analyze social and economic problems that don’t flow directly from big government." Thus they ignore what others see, that "wages no longer keep pace with productivity gains." Bill Kristol was irritated that the Republicans "opposed the Dodd-Frank financial regulation law but never offered an alternative. The party opposed Obamacare but never offered a replacement." Podhoretz, Jr. then chimed in by reminding David that "as soon as Republicans start talking about what kind of regulations and programs that government should promote, they get accused by colleagues of being Big Government conservatives."...

Something else that captured my attention in David’s commentary is the assumption that the GOP should favor a more controlling central government in order to regain their eroded national base. But why should a voter who believes in strict constitutional government support a party that is making itself indistinguishable from the left wing of the Democratic Party? The notion that Brooks and his buds put forth, that their new party will be a coalition that will leave some room for the Neanderthals, isn’t going to cut it. In Pennsylvania, the GOP vote was down in 2012 throughout the conservative regions of the state because the voters loathed Romney as a Democratic look-alike. Why would those who stayed at home last year come out to vote for a Republican version of Obama, albeit one who is presumably better disposed toward the present ruling coalition in Israel?

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That quote doesn't say what you apparently think it says. It certainly doesn't say he supported Obamacare. You should have bolded this part of the quote instead, because it's talking about people like you:
I didn't put that up to show Kirstol supported Obamacare. I put it up to show how these guys think and operate, as well as where their ideology still stands. Now look at how these guys think with this article. When you see "repeal and replace" it's means very little. I read after the election that Mitt would have repealed Obamacare but he was still going to steer the states toward a Mass plan, which originated with the Heritage Foundation ( also considered NC). You can't forget that men like Kristol, believe in Strauss which is they use the noble lie. So of course Kristol may publicly speak out against Obamacare, now. Although he didn't at first. I personally observed Kristol gushing over Obamacare when it first passed or near that time.I will never forget it. I've seen him gush over Obama on some other things too. Like being thrilled he was an interventionist. He's just gone back to Strauss mode, softening his language with his "repeal and replace" as if we need a fed govt HC plan. Gingrich is another snake who does this sort of thing. Con men. NeoCon men.

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Like Mitt Romney? Yeah, he won. Look at what Gottfried said about who stayed home in that election instead of voting because of Romney.

No, no way am I talking about purity. I am talking about political con men. You're reframing my point. The NeoCons are from the left and still are.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:45 PM   #84
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Sorry, you're wrong. He's never supported Obamacare.
I personally saw him gushing about it near the beginning.
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What a cartoonish, strangely worded manifesto, kim sounds like Dorner.

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My buddy that works for the DOD told me awhile back that Dennis Rodman was actually sent to NK by the state department to relay a message to NK. It was not known the exact contents but he told me we could expect a major conflict with them soon.,

My theory is that we know they will load the majority of their troops on to their submarines and at the same time we have had taiwan supply them with poor quality alternater belts and the subs will all go down.



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